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::PNC Meeting Agenda::

--- 10/05/2016 21:00h EDT ---
Room: #pnc


Record of the meeting


1.1 - Members of the PNC

Attending Sayyida: Sayyida - Wisconsin jokeefe: James O'Keefe, USPP Vice Chair & Captain, Mass. Pirate Party Bosun: Jose Klein Chair and Wisconsin organizer XiV: Casey Frame, South Carolina organizer Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero Secretary

Excused GA



1.2 - At Large Members of the PNC

1.3 - Officers of the PNC

1.4 - Other Attendess


  • Meeting called to order at: __:___pm EDT
  • Meeting chaired by _________
  • Secretary for this meeting is _________
  • Quorum is established: ___ out of 8 Members present
  • Logging Enabled: Yes

3 - Review of previous minutes


4.1 - Short Report From Committees

IT Committee

Platform Committee


5 - Agenda Items

Pirate Liveblog of Sunday Presidential Debate

The next Donkey/Elephant presidential debate is this Sunday, October 9th at 9pm ET. It will be covered on all the major networks as well as youtube and twitter. Expect Democracy Now will have the Sunflower candidate's responses in realtime. Not sure about the Statue of Liberty party's candidate. Ideas?

K`Tetch suggested we do a liveblog of it.

  • Who wants to participate?
  • Who wlll set it up? K`Tetch?
  • Who will post an announcement:
    • on the blog?
    • on Facebook?
    • on Twitter?
  • Who will archive?

- AOB -

  • Next meeting: 11/2/2016 at 9:00PM EDT
  • Meeting closed: _____10pm_______

Logs of the Meeting

[9:05pm] jokeefe: Agenda -
[9:05pm] Bluestreak: Thank you.
[9:05pm] Sayyida: using *ironicly* facebook to organize a party
[9:05pm] jokeefe: Check out
[9:05pm] papegaai: Title: Organizing Guide - Mass Pirate Wiki (at
[9:06pm] Bluestreak: We used Facebook to organize our state party.
[9:06pm] jokeefe: Yeah, FB is problematic, but that is where many people are
[9:06pm] XiV: jokeefe: thanks
[9:06pm] jokeefe: twitter, snapchat, etc. all have issues.
[9:06pm] Sayyida: yes
[9:06pm] jokeefe: Web site and email sign up list are probably your best tools
[9:06pm] Bluestreak: Always have a blog.
[9:07pm] jokeefe: Bosun, you running the meeting?
[9:07pm] Sayyida: blogs are good, is there a good site or blogging site you can use?
[9:07pm] Bluestreak: Posting to your blog at least once a week is key.
[9:07pm] Bosun: Ideological purity should be set aside for establishing contacts.
[9:07pm] Bluestreak: Agreed
[9:07pm] XiV: jokeefe: What about age? I mean, I'm 16
[9:08pm] jokeefe: Well you cannot vote, but that doesn’t mean you cannot organize
[9:08pm] Bosun: OK - Can we please have people ID themselves and the state reps Identify
[9:08pm] Sayyida: Sayyida - Wisconsin
[9:08pm] jokeefe: USPP Vice Chair
[9:08pm] Bosun: Jose Klein Chair and Wisconsin organizer
[9:08pm] XiV: Casey Frame, South Carolina organizer
[9:09pm] jokeefe: Also captain, Mass. Pirate Party
[9:09pm] Bosun: Bluestreak?
[9:10pm] Bosun: Agenda is at Agenda -
[9:11pm] Bosun: We more or less discussed the website improvements -
[9:11pm] jokeefe: I will give an IT report at the appropriate time
[9:12pm] Bosun: State reports
[9:13pm] Bosun: Let's not all start at once.
[9:13pm] jokeefe: Massachusetts - Aaron James’ campaign continues going door to door. Celebrated Wikileaks 10th birthday yesterday
[9:14pm] XiV: South Carolina's not gotten off the ground yet. I'm looking into some tools and such, and expect to be up and running in less than a month, depending on scheduling and such
[9:14pm] Sayyida: The Wisconsin party went to Fighting Bob Fest
[9:15pm] Sayyida: where we gave out lit, and discussed the party in general
[9:15pm] jokeefe: MA- Helping with the Anti-TPP concert by Fight for the Future this Friday.  Working on a how to run for local office training after the election.
[9:16pm] jokeefe: IT - blog is up, ssl certs are up. getting space for wiki and moving sab list over.
[9:17pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero Secretary
[9:19pm] kusanagi left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[9:19pm] Bosun: Is Viktyr here? - Any word on the platform committee?
[9:19pm] XiV: Negatory
[9:19pm] CalebL: Speaking to earlier discussion of SSL, you can get SSL on each necessary subdomain today, through Let's Encrypt.
[9:20pm] Bosun: Let's Encrypt is quite cool.
[9:20pm] CalebL: and across domains as well, in the same cert
[9:21pm] XiV: Last I heard from Viktyr, he told me the platform committee was full and I think he had assigned jobs, though the email didn't go any further
[9:22pm] Bosun: WI - we published our new  coop by-laws
[9:22pm] jokeefe: thanks, CalebL, lets encrypt is setup for *
[9:22pm] Bosun: WiPP is using Let's Encrypt as well.
[9:24pm] Bosun: Item 5, then?
[9:25pm] jokeefe: sure
[9:25pm] Channel6 joined the chat room.
[9:25pm] jokeefe: ahoy Channel6
[9:25pm] jokeefe: Agenda -, please id yourself.  Much appreciated
[9:26pm] jokeefe: Pirate Liveblog of Sunday Presidential Debate
[9:26pm] jokeefe: K`Tetch suggested it.
[9:26pm] jokeefe: Sounds like something we could do that would get some attention, with little effort
[9:27pm] XiV: Biggest thing would be promotion
[9:27pm] Sayyida: that would be good
[9:28pm] jokeefe: put on existing blog. post on fb page/twitter
[9:28pm] Bosun: I am doing a post debate show - here is the  VP post debate
[9:28pm] papegaai: Title: P3 WXRW Post VP Debate-2016-10-04 by RW 104.1 | Free Listening on SoundCloud (at
[9:28pm] Bluestreak: Live tweet? Live blog?
[9:28pm] jokeefe: we don’t have an email list unfortunately
[9:29pm] Sayyida: I am working on creating one here in Wisconsin.
[9:30pm] jokeefe: what will you use?
[9:30pm] Bosun: Probably mailman
[9:31pm] jokeefe: not the best CRM system, though.
[9:31pm] jokeefe: I guess us pirates have used in the past
[9:31pm] papegaai: Title: 24liveblog - Live Blogging Platform, Live Blog Tool, Liveblog Plugin for Wordpress (at
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: Hey guiz?
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: I have a question
[9:32pm] jokeefe: sure
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: This dude is messaging me on the MAPP FB page right now
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: Like now.
[9:32pm] Bosun: I am also working with civicdm.
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: James go look if you like
[9:32pm] Bosun: CiviCRM
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: He is utlre-gungho about the Greens and JS
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: and wants us to help promote her... he doesn't like my answer.
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: People all want to hear what Pirates have to say about prez... since this is nat'l meeting
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: Any change in plans? About endorsing?
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: Someone want to write a "stock" answer?
[9:34pm] jokeefe: With endorsements I always ask if how would our endorsement help
[9:35pm] Sayyida: from personal exp from sitting in a green party meeting it's almost not worth it
[9:35pm] Bosun: 65% don't like either major candidate, we need to concentrate on the day after the electtion.
[9:35pm] jokeefe: Personally, I think we need to promote our candidates.
[9:36pm] Bosun: The greens here see us as opposition - or distration
[9:36pm] Sayyida: their meetings are basically meetings about how to have a meeting.
[9:36pm] Sayyida: the one I went to was 4 hours by minutes and they were orgainzed to the 30 scond mark
[9:36pm] Bosun: We need to concentrate on bottom up.
[9:37pm] Bosun: elect dog catchers if need be.
[9:39pm] Bosun: My 2 cents.
[9:39pm] jokeefe: Can we get back to the live blog. Do we want to do it? If so, we should comment on all candidates
[9:39pm] Bluestreak: Agreed.
[9:40pm] roarde: whom do you mean by "all candidates"?
[9:40pm] K`Tetch joined the chat room.
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[9:40pm] roarde: if you're just talking about four, i suggest a word also about why others weren't included
[9:40pm] Bosun: Yes like blog ... I don't know that I can juggle that with the radio shows - at least this next debate.
[9:41pm] jokeefe: Donkey Party, Elephant Party, Sunflower Party, Statue of Liberty Party, any others that are speaking at the same time
[9:41pm] jokeefe: is your radio show live?
[9:41pm] jokeefe: and streamed
[9:41pm] Bosun: yes
[9:42pm] jokeefe: ahoy K`Tetch
[9:42pm] Bosun: to both
[9:42pm] jokeefe: Will you be commenting on the debate, Bosun?
[9:42pm] Bosun: I comment on the debate after the debate. -
[9:43pm] Bosun: With other.
[9:43pm] jokeefe: ok, so not as it happens
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: You can live tweet as MAPP jokeefe
[9:45pm] jokeefe: are others willing to participate Sunday.
[9:45pm] Bosun: Correct. But I don't know if I'll be someplace  good for blogging.
[9:45pm] jokeefe: true, Bluestreak
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: I will be home. I will assist. Tell me what you want done and I will help.
[9:46pm] Bluestreak: ...
[9:46pm] Bluestreak: If I don't fall asleep by accident!
[9:46pm] Sayyida: hahaha
[9:46pm] Bosun: So we have three days to work out mechanics
[9:47pm] jokeefe: * Who wants to participate?
[9:47pm] jokeefe: * Who wlll set it up? K`Tetch?
[9:47pm] jokeefe: * Who will post an announcement:
[9:47pm] jokeefe: ** on the blog?
[9:47pm] jokeefe: ** on Facebook?
[9:47pm] jokeefe: ** on Twitter?
[9:47pm] jokeefe: * Who will archive?
[9:47pm] Bosun: More questions than answers
[9:47pm] Bluestreak: OK I will put together a FB event now. MPP Event
[9:48pm] Bosun: Invite me and I will contribute if I can.
[9:48pm] Bluestreak:  OK Will do
[9:48pm] jokeefe: so we have two people who are willing to participate?
[9:49pm] Bosun: We can advert us on our FB, Twitter, et al.
[9:49pm] Bluestreak: "Don't debate alone, debbate with others!"
[9:49pm] roarde left the chat room. (Remote host closed the connection)
[9:49pm] Sayyida: I can help, but I am not sure what is wanted/needed
[9:50pm] Bluestreak: OMGosh when is the debate?
[9:50pm] jokeefe: Sunday, 9pm ET
[9:50pm] Bluestreak: TY
[9:51pm] Sayyida: I think it's going to be more fightining than the last. It is a literal reality tv show
[9:51pm] jokeefe: K`Tetch, can you offer any advice?
[9:52pm] Bosun: It is a town hall forum
[9:53pm] Bosun: So they need to be nice to the questioners.
[9:54pm] Bosun: No comments K'tech?
[9:55pm] Bosun: Can we get NY  and other state starts next month - SF perhaps?
[9:55pm] Bosun: I'll send mail to the addresses I have
[9:56pm] jokeefe: sounds good
[9:56pm] jokeefe: use or use twitter?
[9:56pm] papegaai: Title: 24liveblog - Live Blogging Platform, Live Blog Tool, Liveblog Plugin for Wordpress (at
[9:57pm] Bosun: Next Meeting November 2nd - same Pirate time.
[9:57pm] Bluestreak:
[9:57pm] papegaai: Title: Presidential Debate Live Tweet (at
[9:57pm] Bosun: cool
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: Joe and James are free to edit this event
[9:58pm] Bosun: TY
[9:58pm] jokeefe: thanks
[9:58pm] Bluestreak: I did the best with the blurb that I could since I don't have the vision for this event
[10:00pm] Bosun: Keeping this to an hour - we adjourn
[10:00pm] Sayyida: thanks guys! tootles
[10:00pm] jokeefe: ok. who will put the blog post up?
[10:00pm] Bluestreak: 2nd
[10:00pm] Sayyida: third
[10:00pm] Bluestreak: ON the MAPP PAGE?
[10:00pm] jokeefe:
[10:01pm] jokeefe:
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: I don't have access
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: to either.
[10:01pm] jokeefe: that can be fixed
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: OK!
[10:01pm] Bosun: whatever works
[10:01pm] Bosun: Good night. 
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: My US blog post won't say much more than the FB event does. Night Joe!
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[10:02pm] Bluestreak: Email me James igf you ike OK/
[10:02pm] jokeefe: good night
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: ?
[10:02pm] jokeefe: ok
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: TTYS
[10:02pm] Bluestreak left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed)