PNC 08/26/19

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  • Pirate_Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Vice-chair, MA
  • OGPAF: Johann Drolshagen, Webmaster
  • jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Representing Massachusetts
  • Bosun: Joe Klein Wisconsin
  • designanddraft: elisa miller Missouri/Michigan


Motion 1 - Open bank account with PNC and have Secretary act as temporary treasurer until the by-laws are changed and someone is elected. - PASSED

Motion 2 - Add new officers to by-laws - TABLED. jokeefe and designanddraft will write formal draft

Motion 3 - Set date for new elections - TABLED until Motion 2 passes

designanddraft talked about running as a pirate presidential candidate


Record of the meeting


[9:04pm] Pirate_Joe: There are three points I have, they are as follows
[9:04pm] Pirate_Joe: 1. Vote on starting a bank account and whom will be on it.
[9:05pm] Pirate_Joe: 2. Bylaws still in need of changing.
[9:05pm] OGPAF: Role?
[9:05pm] Pirate_Joe: 3. Setting date for re-election of new council members.
[9:05pm] Pirate_Joe: it is 5 past, I'm calling this meeting to order
[9:05pm] Pirate_Joe: IDs
[9:06pm] Pirate_Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Vice-chair, MA
[9:06pm] OGPAF: Johann Drolshagen, Webmaster
[9:06pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Representing Massachusetts
[9:06pm] Bosun: Joe Klein Wisconsin
[9:06pm] Pirate_Joe: State OGPAF?
[9:06pm] OGPAF: don't know that I have one, but I am in CA
[9:06pm] Pirate_Joe: <3
[9:08pm] Pirate_Joe: Thank you
[9:09pm] designanddraft: registered in Michigan
[9:09pm] Pirate_Joe: Ok, thank you.
[9:09pm] designanddraft: thx
[9:09pm] Pirate_Joe: First item on the agenda for discussion and a vote
[9:10pm] Pirate_Joe: Currently we have been working on starting a bank account.  As I am aware, Megan and Joseph will be starting it and I will be added to it later as a temporary treasurer.
[9:11pm] Pirate_Joe: Bosun, did you acquire the EIN?
[9:11pm] Bosun: Yes.
[9:11pm] Pirate_Joe: So all that is left is then voting on doing so, correct?
[9:12pm] designanddraft: where to bank> i.e. credit union etc
[9:12pm] Bosun: I can mail you and joekeefe the IRS letter
[9:12pm] jokeefe: Who will have signing power and who will be responsible for keeping track of donations and expenditures?
[9:13pm] Bosun: If you have a bank in mind and if it has a branch in Chicago, we can do it.
[9:13pm] Pirate_Joe: Does not matter so long as we have online access.
[9:14pm] Pirate_Joe: We can do PNC bank and I'll take another trip to be added to it.
[9:14pm] jokeefe: Having local branches can be helpful
[9:14pm] Pirate_Joe: I agree
[9:14pm] Pirate_Joe: But that is a challenge we have faced until this point.
[9:14pm] jokeefe: Adding notes to
[9:14pm] papegaai: Title: PNC 08/26/19 - United States Pirate Party (at
[9:15pm] Bosun: Many people have beefs with the national banks.
[9:15pm] Pirate_Joe: I will be the temporary treasurer until one is properly elected.
[9:15pm] designanddraft: i can ask contacts which one was used for occupy nyc, they were inline supportive
[9:16pm] Pirate_Joe: Bosun, PNC bank is close to you, correct?
[9:16pm] Bosun: yes
[9:16pm] Pirate_Joe: And they are in NYC
[9:16pm] Bosun: Excellent
[9:17pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion to go PNC bank with the knowledgethat we can change banks at any point it suites the party.
[9:17pm] Pirate_Joe: anyone 2nd?
[9:17pm] Bosun: Second
[9:18pm] Pirate_Joe: All in favor?
[9:18pm] Bosun: aye
[9:18pm] Pirate_Joe: aye
[9:18pm] Pirate_Joe: against?
[9:18pm] jokeefe: reading
[9:18pm] jokeefe: ….
[9:18pm] jokeefe: aye
[9:19pm] Pirate_Joe: OGPAF?
[9:19pm] OGPAF: aye
[9:19pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion passes
[9:19pm] OGPAF: sorry didn't think I should vote
[9:19pm] Pirate_Joe: You are a part our this council until re-elections
[9:19pm] jokeefe: To be clear: which states are represented and by home?
[9:20pm] OGPAF: ahhh, cool
[9:20pm] Pirate_Joe: Currently, we have MA, WI & CA
[9:20pm] jokeefe: ok
[9:20pm] Pirate_Joe: Aye, this was a vote by each state.
[9:20pm] Pirate_Joe: which over rules council, sorry for the confusion
[9:21pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion passes, Bosun, please go open the account and contact me directly.
[9:21pm] Bosun: ok
[9:21pm] jokeefe: thanks
[9:22pm] Pirate_Joe: 8 minutes until time, lets press on
[9:22pm] Pirate_Joe: 2. Bylaws still in need of changing.
[9:22pm] Pirate_Joe: Jokeefe, can you link the body of the email for me?
[9:23pm] Bosun: If I had thought about it we could have done everything in DC - if we had done the auth the week before.
[9:24pm] jokeefe: These are the changes I am purposing in conjunction with our Chair, Megan. The positions are as follows:
[9:24pm] jokeefe: Captain
[9:24pm] jokeefe: First Mate
[9:24pm] jokeefe: Quartermaster
[9:24pm] jokeefe: Lookout
[9:24pm] jokeefe: Swab
[9:24pm] jokeefe: Swarmwise Director
[9:24pm] jokeefe: Webmaster
[9:24pm] jokeefe: These positions shall be defined as follows:
[9:24pm] jokeefe: The Captain or Chairperson, who shall manage all administration and operations of the PNC, act as the chairperson and spokesperson of the Party, and facilitate PNC meetings.
[9:24pm] jokeefe: The First Officer or Vice-Chair, who shall assist the Captain in managing the administration and operations of the PNC, and conduct business on behalf of the Captain or the Quartermaster in the event that the Captain is absent or incapacitated.
[9:24pm] jokeefe: The Quartermaster, Treasurer, is responsible for all accounts of funds and reporting those funds to the general public.  They will also be the main party involved in keeping records of the income of such funds.
[9:24pm] jokeefe: Lookout, State Moderator, COC & Funds enforcer.  The main role of this council member is to ensure that disputes between states have an impartial party that can help produce a resolution.  The second role of this position is to work with the captains of each state with understanding and enforcing the pirate COC.  Lastly, any distribution of funds from the national level to a state level would then fall to the Lookout to ensure that the funds were used appropriately.
[9:24pm] jokeefe: Swab,  Secretary, who shall keep records of the minutes and logs for meetings, tally votes, and maintain a database of the members who compose the PNC as set forth in Art. III §1.
[9:24pm] jokeefe: Swarmwise Director, responsible for organizing all outside influencers to assist the USPP in our endeavors.
[9:24pm] jokeefe: Webmaster, master of the online.  In control of social media, video recordings and online presences to ensure we are putting our best foot forward.. 
[9:25pm] Pirate_Joe: This has to do will all the new roles of this council, which needs a vote of the states to be committed to our bylaws
[9:25pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion that these will be the new roles of this council?
[9:25pm] OGPAF: Second
[9:25pm] jokeefe: oppose
[9:26pm] Pirate_Joe: opposed, jokeefe, you have the floor.
[9:26pm] jokeefe: this should detail what exactly we should change in the bylaws.
[9:27pm] jokeefe: It is phrased as this is what we should do, not this is what it will be
[9:27pm] jokeefe: Can we revise and bring back to next meeting. I am happy to help in the revision.
[9:27pm] designanddraft: mayb change spokesperson, to reflect not top down structure
[9:28pm] jokeefe: also, doesn’t contain a renaming of Swab. 
[9:29pm] Pirate_Joe: Ok, jokeefe, could you redraft with the needed changes and bring back next week?
[9:29pm] jokeefe: Sure. Will propose a draft
[9:30pm] Pirate_Joe: Also, designanddraft, we have a structure so that when there is a dispute with leads to a quick and decisive resolution.  Every voice has equal say so long as you are here representing your state.
[9:30pm] Pirate_Joe: *with leads to = there will be
[9:30pm] designanddraft: indeed, just the wording
[9:31pm] jokeefe: could have them be “primary spokespeople”
[9:31pm] Pirate_Joe: One of our goals is true democracy, so it goes without saying.  Perhaps we should add that goal to our bylaws?
[9:31pm] jokeefe: with provision for other spokespeople to be elected.
[9:32pm] Bosun: That sounds more like a mission statement.
[9:32pm] Pirate_Joe: I personally prefer captain, since gender is not an issue with such a title.
[9:32pm] Pirate_Joe: We are 2 minutes, past time.
[9:32pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion to add an additional 10 minutes to the time.
[9:32pm] Bosun: So say chair, it need not have gender attached.
[9:33pm] OGPAF: second
[9:33pm] Pirate_Joe: All in favor of adding more time?
[9:33pm] Pirate_Joe: aye
[9:33pm] OGPAF: aye
[9:33pm] Bosun: aye
[9:33pm] designanddraft: it would work fine without it, unless its important on a different level
[9:33pm] Pirate_Joe: jokeefe and designanddraft?
[9:33pm] designanddraft: aye
[9:34pm] jokeefe: no objection, though I am not sure what we need 10 minutes to discuss further. any changes could be worked out in the draft on the sab email list
[9:34pm] Pirate_Joe: motion passes
[9:35pm] Pirate_Joe: We have to more items to attend to this meeting
[9:35pm] Pirate_Joe: Bylaws tabled anyways until next week
[9:35pm] Pirate_Joe: 3. Setting date for re-election of new council members.
[9:35pm] Bosun: Putting traditional labels for positions next to how we refer to them - even in a appendix - might be needed if we have legal disputes.
[9:36pm] jokeefe: Why set a date when we haven’t changed the officers? Couldn’t we decide that next week?
[9:36pm] Pirate_Joe: Since it may be a few weeks until we hash out the bylaws in full, I propose we push back the following election until 10/23/2019
[9:37pm] jokeefe: What is the current date?
[9:37pm] Pirate_Joe: This should also be sent out to the SAB list along with the proposed new positions.
[9:37pm] Bosun: 8/26
[9:37pm] Pirate_Joe: Sorry, should be 9/23, not 10/23
[9:37pm] jokeefe: What is the current date for the elections?
[9:37pm] jokeefe: oh ok.
[9:38pm] Pirate_Joe: There are none, this is my proposal.  The floor is open for discussion
[9:38pm] Bosun: Check the current bylaws
[9:38pm] designanddraft: is there a traditionally?
[9:38pm] jokeefe: ah. Suggest we figure it out next week after consulting the by-laws
[9:38pm] Bosun: Not  for the past three years.
[9:39pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion to table new election?
[9:39pm] Bosun: I like year end or quarter end, since reports and money will be involved now.
[9:39pm] designanddraft: if ppl r used to it a certain way, dont want to catch ppl offguard
[9:40pm] Bosun: We have had no certain way for the last 4 or 4 years.
[9:40pm] Pirate_Joe: So table the election date?
[9:40pm] Bosun: '3 or 4
[9:41pm] Bosun: Until next week,
[9:41pm] Pirate_Joe: Election date tabled
[9:41pm] designanddraft: i like yr an qtr end also, but holidays get overwhelming for annual, yes next week
[9:41pm] Pirate_Joe: 4. Presidential candidate Elisa Miller.
[9:41pm] jokeefe: We are over time
[9:42pm] designanddraft: so that means hello and goodbye, lol
[9:42pm] Pirate_Joe: Elisa, can you wait until the next meeting?
[9:42pm] Bosun: Extend and let candidate speak
[9:42pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion to add an additional 10 minutes?
[9:42pm] OGPAF: second
[9:42pm] jokeefe: aye
[9:42pm] Bosun: aye
[9:42pm] OGPAF: aye
[9:42pm] Pirate_Joe: All in favor?
[9:42pm] Pirate_Joe: Aye
[9:42pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion passes
[9:42pm] designanddraft: since there r few of us here tonight, i invite anyone to find me on facebook or call anytime
[9:43pm] Pirate_Joe: Elise?
[9:43pm] OGPAF: ditto
[9:43pm] Bosun: URLs?
[9:43pm] Pirate_Joe: I am sure we will, but please tell us more about yourself?
[9:43pm] designanddraft: facebook designanddraft
[9:43pm] designanddraft: phone 5047828688
[9:44pm] designanddraft: i work on a project
[9:46pm] Bosun: ?
[9:46pm] designanddraft: i think now is the time to get alot of momentum, im volunteering because it needs done and i can
[9:46pm] Pirate_Joe:
[9:46pm] designanddraft: yup
[9:46pm] designanddraft: im 45, identify as female
[9:47pm] Bosun: Born in USA?
[9:47pm] designanddraft: ive traveled the country
[9:48pm] designanddraft: im very down to earth and out of the box, i stayed in new orleans thru katrina and nyc thru occupy,
[9:48pm] Bosun: You fit the Constitutional qualifications- is what I was asking.
[9:48pm] designanddraft: im from iowa, so well educated and raised on politics
[9:48pm] designanddraft: indeed qualified
[9:49pm] Pirate_Joe: Please add to the meeting notes and SAB discussion
[9:49pm] Pirate_Joe: That is the entire agenda
[9:49pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion to adjourn?
[9:49pm] Bosun: 45 and native citizen and alive.
[9:49pm] designanddraft: hooray
[9:49pm] OGPAF: arrrgh
[9:49pm] Bosun: Motion to adjourn
[9:50pm] Pirate_Joe: All in favor?
[9:50pm] OGPAF: aye
[9:50pm] Pirate_Joe: aye
[9:50pm] Bosun: aye
[9:50pm] jokeefe: aye
[9:50pm] Bosun: bye
[9:50pm] jokeefe: thank you designanddraft
[9:50pm] designanddraft: aye, thanks for all you do
[9:50pm] Bosun left the chat room. (Quit: Leaving)
[9:50pm] Pirate_Joe: This meeting is adjourned, please go out and plunder!