PNC 4/15/20
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Agenda
Continue discussion on getting more states to attend meetings.
Reports
IT
- jokeefe setup a Loomio Instance
- Silas has this IT Todo List
Decision
Should we oppose the EARN IT Act?
Candidate Selection Process
Attending
- Bosun: Joseph Klein USPP Chair, Wisconsin
- Joe: Joseph Onoroski Treasurer, Massachusetts
- jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts, Secretary
- Sayyida: Megan Klein, vice chair
Non-Voting
Summary
Agreed to oppose the EARN IT Act. Bosun and Sayyida will write up a statement.
Minutes
Record of the meeting
[9:59pm] Bosun: Let's get started. Please identify for the minutes. [10:00pm] Bosun: Joseph Klein USPP Chair, Wisconsin [10:00pm] Joe: Joseph Onoroski Treasurer, Massachusetts [10:00pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts, Secretary [10:00pm] Sayyida: Megan Klein [10:00pm] jokeefe: Notes/Agenda: https://wiki.pirate-party.us/PNC_4/15/20 [10:00pm] papegaai: Title: PNC 4/15/20 - United States Pirate Party (at wiki.pirate-party.us) [10:00pm] Sayyida: vice chair [10:03pm] Bosun: Sayyida and I will mentor our future Illinois Pirate Congressman on running for office. [10:03pm] Sayyida: yes. we have contact wiht Mitch [10:03pm] Sayyida: with* [10:03pm] Joe: Jamie and I can will continue to reach out to CN then. [10:04pm] Bosun: CiviCRM really needs a complete overhaul. - my addition to the IT notes. I like what Liz did and want to see what I can carry over to a new version. [10:04pm] Bosun: Please yes, invite them to IRC [10:05pm] Joe: Will do [10:06pm] jokeefe: MA updated our CiviCRM, if you want to talk with the person who did that I can ask him to contact you [10:06pm] Bosun: The Congressional race is not until the next presidential midterm in 2022. [10:07pm] Bosun: OK - yes please. [10:07pm] jokeefe: will do Bosun [10:07pm] Joe: jokeefe discovered a bill with some serious issues we should address. [10:08pm] Joe: earn it act 2020 [10:08pm] Sayyida left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:08pm] Sayyida joined the chat room. [10:08pm] Sayyida: what kind of serious issues? [10:08pm] Bosun: Any feedback on the draft "how to get endorsed" that requires action? [10:08pm] Joe: jokeefe? [10:09pm] jokeefe: I haven’t heard anything [10:10pm] jokeefe: how does it look? [10:10pm] Joe: It grants the US government to go after companies for encryption in the name of stopping child abuse. Thing is it goes way to far. [10:11pm] jokeefe: Here is techdirt’s summary: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200305/13510544043/senators-hawley-feinstein-join-graham-blumenthal-announcing-bill-to-undermine-both-encryption-section-230.shtml [10:11pm] papegaai: Title: Senators Hawley & Feinstein Join Graham & Blumenthal In Announcing Bill To Undermine Both Encryption And Section 230 | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com) [10:13pm] Sayyida left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:13pm] Sayyida joined the chat room. [10:14pm] Sayyida: kind of feel like this is a "patriot act" but instead of "terrorists" its "child abusers" [10:14pm] Joe left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:15pm] Joe joined the chat room. [10:15pm] Bosun: Child abusers need to give law enforcement their keys so the can incriminate themselves? [10:15pm] jokeefe: with a layer of government backdoors to encryption [10:15pm] jokeefe: not just child abusers [10:16pm] Sayyida: that seems to be the prime excuse for it [10:16pm] Bosun: Generally banning encryption is stupid. [10:16pm] jokeefe: agreed [10:16pm] Sayyida: same here [10:17pm] Bosun: The people I did radio with. Would then ask me if I was pro child abuse. [10:17pm] jokeefe: No, but we are pro-privacy for everyone. [10:18pm] Bosun: Yes, and we need to reiterate that. [10:18pm] Joe: Agreed [10:19pm] jokeefe: Like with FOSTA, this law will likely make it harder to go after child abusers [10:19pm] Sayyida: 10 min left gentlemen [10:20pm] jokeefe: Do we want to oppose the EARN IT act? [10:20pm] Bosun: I think it is relatively simple, a virus emergency should not be cover for taking away citizen's rights/ [10:21pm] Bosun: We want to appose restrictions on encryption. Back doors end up giving an entrance to Bothe white and black hats. [10:23pm] Bosun: oppose. [10:23pm] Joe left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:23pm] jokeefe: oppose [10:23pm] Joe joined the chat room. [10:23pm] Sayyida: both* [10:23pm] Bosun: Ok ... [10:23pm] jokeefe: both? [10:24pm] Bosun: Both black and white [10:24pm] jokeefe: ok [10:24pm] Bosun: My old melted mind can't spell . [10:25pm] Sayyida: I think we've been inside too long [10:25pm] jokeefe: Aye that [10:25pm] jokeefe: Do any oppose opposing the EARN IT act? [10:25pm] Sayyida: nay [10:26pm] Joe: nay [10:26pm] Bosun: A posting on the front page, with our stand. Let's avoid the double negatives though. [10:26pm] Sayyida: however, do we all need to go back to English class? [10:27pm] jokeefe: Who will write it? [10:28pm] Sayyida: 2 minutes [10:28pm] Bosun: Meg and I will work on a short blurb to post tomorrow. I will put out some text and she will fix it. [10:29pm] Joe: Sounds great, that's all I currently have [10:29pm] Sayyida: motion to adjourn [10:29pm] Joe: 2nd [10:29pm] Sayyida: all in favor? [10:29pm] jokeefe: Shall we review https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate [10:29pm] papegaai: Title: Riseup Pad (at pad.riseup.net) [10:29pm] jokeefe: next week [10:29pm] Bosun: Any objections [10:29pm] jokeefe: ? [10:29pm] Bosun: Yes. [10:30pm] jokeefe: ok [10:30pm] Bosun: First thing on the agenda. [10:30pm] jokeefe: have a good night [10:30pm] Sayyida left the chat room. (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/) [10:31pm] Joe: gn [10:31pm] jokeefe: I’ll post the notes [10:31pm] Joe left the chat room. (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/)