PNC 10/11/20

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  • Inviting people to new SAB and outreach committee lists





  • Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Treasurer, Massachusetts.
  • jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Secretary, Massachusetts


  • Yari: Rose Klein, California
  • Olivia_: Olivia Kristiann, PPI volunteer


Did not hold a regular meeting as WI representatives could not attend. Instead we had an open discussion.


Record of the meeting


[9:01pm] Joe: Unfortunately, Bosun nor Sayyida will be able to attend tonight.  If we may, lets keep the discussion as open as possible and we will just post it all at the end.
[9:01pm] Yari: Understood
[9:02pm] Joe: With that said, is there anything you need to order to get things going in your prospective states?
[9:03pm] Yari: Not as of yet for me. Although I might have some thoughts on that next week.
[9:04pm] Yari: What is our budget?
[9:05pm] Joe: We just recorded another video for the youtube channel. Doing an event in Worchester coming up to map cameras. Jokeefe does a really good job of organizing us every week.
[9:05pm] Yari: Do we have specific items that we've already ordered?
[9:05pm] jokeefe: not that I know of
[9:05pm] Yari: Joe that sounds awesome
[9:05pm] jokeefe: We need to setup a way for people to donate to us
[9:05pm] Joe: Currently we have 130 last I checked.
[9:06pm] Yari: jokeefe: do we not have a donate button on website?
[9:06pm] Joe: We have a Zazzle account to set up for donations but there is a slight issue
[9:06pm] jokeefe: Besides the hundreds in in-kind donations
[9:06pm] Joe: The place for mail and the bank accounts are in two different states.
[9:07pm] Joe: So there is a slight logistical challenge we accepting all things.
[9:08pm] Joe: But that said we should be able to set up a "gofundme" for specific projects that we want to do.  It more of what do we want to accomplish than how to handle the money.
[9:08pm] jokeefe: Mass Pirates use piryx, but that isn’t our only option
[9:08pm] Yari: Oh, point of order: are we identifying for this meeting?
[9:08pm] Joe: This is more of a casual meeting, but we can.
[9:08pm] Joe: Ids?
[9:08pm] Yari: Rose Klein, California
[9:09pm] Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Treasurer, Massachusetts.
[9:09pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Secretary, Massachusetts
[9:09pm] Olivia_: Olivia Kristiann, PPI volunteer
[9:10pm] Yari: So donations
[9:10pm] Yari: Gofundme is a separate thing I think
[9:11pm] Yari: It would be nice to have a consistent method to accept donations
[9:11pm] Olivia_: Donation pages usually have a fee attached according to how much has been taken in.  Look for one with the smallest percentage of funds they will deduct.
[9:12pm] jokeefe: Agreed. Where any citizen or permanent resident can just give their credit card and donate
[9:12pm] Yari: jokeefe: exactly
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[9:13pm] Joe: We need to have a system by which we can take all of their information. If we do not get it all we may have to re-donated those funds to another cause.
[9:14pm] Yari: I wonder if there is already some sort of third party equivalent of actblue
[9:14pm] Yari: That we might be able to piggyback off of
[9:14pm] Yari: At least temporarily
[9:15pm] Yari: Until such a time as we can build our own system
[9:17pm] Joe: It would be easier to get one that is prebuilt, though not all are the same.
[9:17pm] Joe: Like Olivia said, there are donation pages out there that we can use.
[9:18pm] Joe: Do we want to start working on doing a digital national conference?
[9:18pm] Yari: Digital national conference?
[9:19pm] Joe: Like a Zoom call but for everyone in the US?
[9:19pm] jokeefe:
[9:19pm] papegaai: Title: Piryx Politics Alternatives & Competitors | G2 (at
[9:19pm] jokeefe: well pirates who want to help
[9:20pm] Joe: I have heard of NationBuilder and been on before.
[9:20pm] Yari: When do you think would be best for a national conference
[9:20pm] jokeefe: for the mass conference we are looking at using for our discussion sessions.
[9:20pm] papegaai: Title: BigBlueButton - Open Source Web Conferencing (at
[9:20pm] jokeefe: Nation Builder requires we move the site to them
[9:21pm] Yari: When are you having mass conference?
[9:21pm] jokeefe: I have used them in the past, but it wasn’t great
[9:21pm] Yari: Yeah I'm not a fan of nation builder
[9:21pm] Olivia_: Dealing with the drama and harassment I have been dealing with for several months over Zoom, Pirates outside the United States won't really jump on board from my own experience when I encourage Zoom use because it's the more stable and reliable service out there now.
[9:21pm] jokeefe: Nov 14-15
[9:22pm] Joe: nah, but it did mostly do the job.
[9:22pm] Yari: Olivia_: not using zoom, just zoom likes
[9:22pm] Joe: Zoom has is problems, like any platform Olivia_ I prefer Discord myself.
[9:23pm] Joe: Yeah, Also Jitsi has been working really well for the mass pirates too.
[9:23pm] Joe: Though today it had some issues.
[9:24pm] Yari: Okay, makes sense.
[9:24pm] Yari: Suggestions for when might be best for a national conference?
[9:24pm] Olivia_: We don't even use Zoom anymore but one Pirate still won't shut the hell up about it and ruins every Pirate Beer we've had for months.
[9:25pm] Yari: We're definitely going to have to adjust and rethink national strategy after election month no matter what the outcome is
[9:25pm] Joe: I would suggest put it to a vote for the best date for everyone. Maybe over email?
[9:25pm] jokeefe: when is the next pirate beer?
[9:25pm] Yari: Now that I get them, sure! 
[9:26pm] Joe: Sorry for not getting that done quickly.
[9:26pm] Olivia_: The 23rd is the next Pirate Beer.
[9:27pm] Olivia_: Meg has been there for two of them.
[9:27pm] jokeefe: thanks
[9:28pm] Olivia_: Does USPP and MassPirates want to do a special Pirate Beer appearance??
[9:28pm] Yari: That would be cool
[9:28pm] Joe: I would be honored to attend.
[9:29pm] Olivia_: I can tell Bailey and we can plan it for the next Pirate Beer on the 23rd.  I'm the only one from the United States who appears!
[9:29pm] jokeefe:
[9:29pm] papegaai: Title: Pirate Beer - PPI (at
[9:29pm] Olivia_: It's held on BigBlueButton now.
[9:30pm] Joe: That said, we are at time for this week.
[9:30pm] Joe: Though I'm happy to continue since that is more relaxed.  Plus I don't want to interrupt, so for that I'm sorry.
[9:31pm] Joe: *this
[9:31pm] Yari: One thing I'd like to bring up
[9:31pm] Olivia_: I can email James about the details?
[9:31pm] jokeefe: 3pm EDT
[9:31pm] jokeefe: sure
[9:31pm] jokeefe: thanks Olivia_
[9:32pm] Joe: Would you mind sending them to me as well Olivia_
[9:32pm] jokeefe: sure
[9:32pm] Olivia_: Our next SCULL meeting is this Wednesday if anyone wants to attend.
[9:32pm] Olivia_: Yes what's your email address? 
[9:33pm] Joe: <redacted />
[9:33pm] Joe: And thank you.
[9:33pm] Joe: Yari, your free to speak at any point. 
[9:34pm] Yari: Unrelated to the previous discussion, though -
[9:34pm] Yari: Kusanagi had requested that we think about and then discuss some rules for the uspp discord
[9:34pm] Yari: I'll be making a draft for the next Sunday meeting
[9:35pm] Joe: I thought our code of conduct would do, I do not understand.
[9:35pm] Joe: But thank you for that!
[9:36pm] jokeefe: thanks Yari
[9:36pm] Yari: Code of conduct and rules are similar but different in this case.
[9:36pm] Yari: Rules are more for specific cases
[9:36pm] Yari: If someone breaks the rules we can kick them
[9:36pm] Joe: I just try to not be disrespectful and hope for the best. <3
[9:37pm] Yari: If someone breaks code of conduct that is harder to litigate
[9:37pm] Joe: I think from the discord we should have it so that we can kick anyone for any reason at any time.
[9:37pm] Joe: That way its simpler to remove someone for being disruptive for no reason.
[9:38pm] Joe: Like someone who would use the entire meeting to complain about Zoom or any other over the top thing.
[9:38pm] Yari: And who has the power to make that decision? Is it the uspp voting members?
[9:38pm] Yari: What about when the discord gets big and has more ppl?
[9:39pm] Joe: Generally someone whom does not want such powers. I nominate Jokeefe!
[9:39pm] Joe: Since he is one of the most easy going people I know.
[9:40pm] Yari: Mmmm.... I object to placing the decisions of rules on one person
[9:40pm] Joe: But we could also just make it a round robin duty or some other system but which no one person has it forever.
[9:40pm] Yari: Sure, things to think about
[9:41pm] Joe: Maybe make it an official office of the party that is part of the elections?
[9:41pm] Joe: Well, that's all I have for this evening.
[9:41pm] Joe: Any one else?
[9:42pm] Olivia_: A special USPP/MassPirates election edition of Pirate Beer on the 23rd which is great timing right before the election!
[9:42pm] Yari: I will propose a few ideas next meeting, and we can add or adjust other things as ppl see fit.
[9:42pm] Olivia_: I'll email James and Joe tonight.
[9:42pm] Joe: Sounds good.
[9:42pm] Yari: And by a few ideas I mean a full text
[9:42pm] Yari: Anyway
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[9:45pm] jokeefe: what am I being nominated for?
[9:46pm] Joe: Wb jokeefe, we have elected you to Supreme Chancellor.
[9:46pm] Yari: Okay well that's it for me
[9:46pm] Joe: <3
[9:46pm] jokeefe: brb
[9:46pm] Yari: Jokeefe congrats
[9:46pm] Joe: lol
[9:50pm] Yari: I think we're done
[9:50pm] Yari: I'm good
[9:50pm] Joe: I think we have completed everything.
[9:50pm] Yari: Calm seas to all
[9:50pm] Olivia_: Goodnight!
[9:50pm] Joe: And the wind at your back.
[9:50pm] Joe: Good night!
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[9:50pm] jokeefe: good night!