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[20:21:54] Mode is +nt [20:22:03] <pmchi> Ahoy! [20:22:07] <yariValtean> there we go [20:22:18] <yariValtean> Ahoy bosun [20:22:22] <@Bosun> I am very late. [20:22:29] <Olivia_> Hey! [20:22:48] <yariValtean> Okay let's get this thing started then [20:23:12] <yariValtean> I'll ping bosun earlier next time, that worked quickly [20:23:17] <@Bosun> What have you volunteered me for [20:23:20] <@Bosun> ? [20:23:27] <yariValtean> Nothing, we haven't started yet [20:23:30] <@Bosun> Who is here? [20:23:40] <yariValtean> IDs: [20:23:46] <yariValtean> Rose Klein, California [20:23:50] <Olivia_> Olivia Kristiann, PPI volunteer [20:23:53] <@Bosun> Joe Klein USPP chair [20:23:58] <pmchi> Mitch Davilo, Chicago observer [20:24:14] <yariValtean> Welcome pacha! Glad to have you! [20:24:19] <yariValtean> pmchi [20:24:55] <pmchi> Happy to be here! [20:25:00] <@Bosun> So - what are we on track for? [20:25:28] <@Bosun> I should re-read our prior notes. [20:25:31] <yariValtean> Okay, last week was the election and the week before that was the test stream [20:25:47] <yariValtean> Before that we agreed to work on bringing in recruits [20:26:03] <@Bosun> We did a stream. Cool. [20:26:44] <@Bosun> So we put a bounty up and hit the bars, right? [20:26:56] <Olivia_> This weekend is massPirates' coference. Whoever from there and USPP appearing Saturday at PPI's Pirate Beer can be used for recruitment? [20:27:10] <yariValtean> I should add a note here as the new discord System Operator that I will be adding state roles to the discord within the next week [20:27:14] <pmchi> There was an issue with Twitter today. We got tagged (USPP, PPI) in a group of not-so-desireable company [20:27:38] <@Bosun> For what? [20:27:44] <yariValtean> Pmchi I didn't see that, care to elaboratE? [20:28:24] <yariValtean> Can we get untagged? Is there damage control to be done? [20:28:29] <@Bosun> How did we pess off the tweet gods? [20:28:35] <@Bosun> piss .. [20:28:59] <pmchi> Almost like we were being bundled into the alt right. Olivia actually pointedit out [20:29:15] <pmchi> Olivia on Twitter pointed it out [20:29:25] <@Bosun> By who? [20:29:29] <Olivia_> I emailed it to the SAB list about it with screenshots. I got paranoid because well-funded dangerous men have been paying more attention to myself and PPI's Chair. [20:30:27] <pmchi> It felt like an early attempt to lump us in with the worst. Controlled OP [20:30:30] <Olivia_> No damage control just ignore it. [20:30:44] <Olivia_> Yari [20:30:50] <pmchi> Just something to keep an eye on [20:30:52] <yariValtean> Noted [20:31:23] <yariValtean> Bosun did Sayyida get any info on who controls keys to CAPP twitter? [20:31:58] <@Bosun> OK. We refused Trump in '16. [20:32:27] <@Bosun> No, think not. Hang on I will confer. [20:32:34] <yariValtean> thanks [20:33:29] <@Bosun> No. Who has it? [20:33:47] <yariValtean> Correct. I would like keys [20:33:58] <yariValtean> Need to know who to contact other than obvious [20:34:12] <@Bosun> What is the twitter handle? [20:34:47] <yariValtean> @calpirateparty [20:35:13] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) left IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [20:35:21] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) joined the channel [20:36:06] <yariValtean> Other twitter presence stuff [20:36:09] <yariValtean> : [20:36:13] <Olivia_> How about putting out a call on the USPP twitter and maybe a blog post too asking if anyone knows who has the keys and see how far that goes? [20:36:57] <pmchi> @lady_majesty was the problem account if that’s the question [20:37:12] <@Bosun> Looks like it died in August '17. [20:37:34] <yariValtean> Olivia - I'm not opposed. [20:37:55] <yariValtean> Both of those actions are in other people's hands [20:38:01] <@Bosun> http://www.calpirateparty.org/ [20:38:03] <papegaai> Title: California Pirate Party (at www.calpirateparty.org) [20:38:18] <yariValtean> Yep, I've emailed the website email too [20:39:50] <yariValtean> Okay, so could that be done please? What Olivia suggested [20:40:01] <@Bosun> OK more intel [20:40:25] <Olivia_> I can have up a blog post by tomorrow and pass it around to the platforms I do. [20:40:41] <@Bosun> OK - [20:40:46] <yariValtean> Either way, this search should be conducted at another time and not be done using live updates during our meeting [20:40:58] <@Bosun> yep [20:41:03] <yariValtean> I just wanted to ask for a status report [20:41:21] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) left IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [20:41:22] <yariValtean> If we can't find any more info, please do the blog post [20:41:28] <yariValtean> And the USPP call [20:41:29] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) joined the channel [20:41:32] <yariValtean> Thank you [20:42:00] <yariValtean> Are there other twitter things we need to talk about? [20:42:06] <@Bosun> pmchi - look for pirate variations on ILPP [20:42:20] <@Bosun> for twitter account [20:42:26] <yariValtean> Yeah, do we have the keys to them? [20:42:47] <@Bosun> If we make them we will. [20:42:57] <pmchi> I remember an old Facebook and Twitter, dead since 2013 [20:43:06] <@Bosun> We can do anoher name and move on. [20:43:12] <@Bosun> another. [20:43:23] <yariValtean> fantastic [20:43:52] <yariValtean> Pmchi, I want to ask about your campaign, and anything we can do to help make it more viable. [20:44:05] <@Bosun> At some point twitter and Facebook et al will lean out the deadwood. [20:44:17] <pmchi> We need a real website, but I want to get the little things done first [20:44:28] <yariValtean> You are the one running for a seat, correct? [20:44:41] <pmchi> Yeah, I’m IL-03 [20:44:46] <yariValtean> Cool cool [20:44:50] <yariValtean> Congrats, by they way [20:44:51] <pmchi> Newman’s new seat [20:44:52] <@Bosun> I am working on a nice ILPP website. [20:45:03] <yariValtean> That's quite exciting [20:45:10] <pmchi> Thank you and thank you! [20:45:24] <pmchi> I’ve been looking forward to running for office since 2016 [20:45:38] <Olivia_> Use #VotePirate if you want to be retweeted onto the PPI account. [20:45:58] <@Bosun> So CA, how can we move it forward? [20:46:14] <yariValtean> How can we, as the outreach committee, make more systems to directly or indirectly help you? [20:46:18] <yariValtean> Hang on Bosun [20:47:16] <yariValtean> I guess this is a brainstorm time? [20:47:32] <@Bosun> yes - [20:47:48] <yariValtean> I want us to make this campaign successful in as many ways as we can [20:48:04] <yariValtean> I feel like, apart from recruitment, that should really be our secondary goal [20:48:09] <pmchi> I think having a good YouTube channel would help. Just a platform that people can watch pirate related videos and get educated on our issues [20:48:17] <yariValtean> Because campaigns are what drive numbers anyway [20:48:19] <Olivia_> I tell others to be their own celebrities to promote themselves and PR. Videos and pictures/selfies are key. [20:48:43] <yariValtean> pmchi that's a good point [20:49:38] <yariValtean> There's been a push to have all meetings be streamed. Is there a possibility we can spearhead that? [20:49:45] <@Bosun> mail list, website, twitter, hot social media of the day [20:50:11] <yariValtean> Streaming the meetings and having explainers of pirate concepts on a youtube would be nice [20:50:36] <Olivia_> Streaming would attract more because people would rather watch than read minutes if they can't be directly there. [20:50:49] <yariValtean> Good point Olivia [20:51:07] <yariValtean> I hadn't thought about that [20:51:19] <yariValtean> All the more reason to do this ASAP [20:51:46] <Olivia_> I've also pitched to others too to start their own "talk show" every week to attract more followers which also serves for recruitment too. [20:52:18] <yariValtean> Certainly, having something akin to that for each state would be a good starting point for each state party [20:52:28] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) left IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [20:52:36] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) joined the channel [20:52:43] <yariValtean> MAss pirates has it [20:52:45] <@Bosun> Streaming can also be manipulative. [20:52:50] <yariValtean> How so? [20:53:12] <Olivia_> Think like a Kardashian or Hilton. Videos and selfies and just record yourself out there for Pirate Party. [20:54:31] <@Bosun> Yes ego trips. For board meeting - I think it is an issue. [20:54:47] <yariValtean> Can you elaborate bosun? [20:54:52] <pmchi> I printed out stickers of the USPP logo. I think just people recognizing the logo would be a huge step in the right direction [20:55:06] <yariValtean> Are you afraid someone will take up too much airspace? [20:55:23] <pmchi> Or unwanted folk might drop in? [20:56:31] <Olivia_> Explain what Pirate Party is so people won't wonder about the name which always gets brought up. Mitch can you get flyers made and plaster them around your area? [20:56:33] <@Bosun> I am afraid of cyberbullies and narcissists. [20:57:17] <yariValtean> Bosun, among our own ranks, or dropping in from others? [20:57:27] <yariValtean> I think either way this is not a problem inherent to video [20:57:35] <pmchi> Of course! I could do it and link a QR Code to the USPP website [20:57:38] <@Bosun> For a campaign I think short videos are great. [20:57:49] <pmchi> Like, have the QR code on the poster, I mean [20:57:57] <pmchi> Quick outreach [20:58:53] <yariValtean> Bosun I think we're moving on to streaming meetings anyway, it seems like the PNC has kind of already decided that [20:59:15] <@Bosun> Every political party I have dealt with in the last 40 years has fights and faction lead by egotists. [20:59:41] <yariValtean> Well then, let's make this party different. [20:59:46] <@Bosun> No Joe O has. [21:00:22] <@Bosun> Really - shall I name the parties I have worked in? [21:00:31] <yariValtean> Okay, well... We can have this debate some other time then. I would be happy to talk this out with you in person. And NO please done [21:00:32] <yariValtean> Don't [21:01:21] <yariValtean> Perhaps it would be better we remain text based, although I'm inclined to disagree. [21:01:26] <@Bosun> We need rules - hence why people use roberts. [21:02:13] <@Bosun> Membership meeting probably should be video. [21:02:26] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) left IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [21:02:35] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) joined the channel [21:03:08] <yariValtean> pmchi, I like the idea of printing out the stickers, that sounds awesome! I kind of want to copy that idea myself [21:03:09] <pmchi> Maybe limit those who can appear on the livestream to voting members? [21:03:29] <pmchi> The circle logo made a great sticker not gonna lie lol [21:03:39] <yariValtean> Currently, that would be almost none. It should be voting and observers [21:03:52] <yariValtean> But again - debate for the Sunday meeting, not outreach [21:04:09] <@Bosun> Megan accusees me of not being confrentational, because I have seen parties split and I read history. [21:04:47] <@Bosun> We have two states attending in good standing MA and WI. We need to add more. [21:05:01] <yariValtean> Yes. So, speaking of. [21:05:16] <yariValtean> CA status. IL status. OH? [21:05:22] <pmchi> When would be the best time for us to meet about IL? [21:05:47] <pmchi> File proper paperwork and what not [21:06:25] <@Bosun> You caan call me and we can get the ball rolling with the state - establish a political comitee. [21:06:57] <@Bosun> For congress we need to file with the FEC as well. [21:07:18] <pmchi> Gotta wait for this cycle to officially end so we can get that signature count [21:07:58] <@Bosun> I nominate pmchi as intrum chair of ILPP. [21:08:19] <yariValtean> second [21:08:23] <pmchi> I accept [21:08:57] <Olivia_> Congratulations! [21:09:12] <pmchi> Does this make me a voting member? [21:09:27] <yariValtean> of the USPP? no [21:09:31] <yariValtean> I don't think so? [21:09:58] <yariValtean> Gosh I don't know [21:10:06] <@Bosun> No - committee does not require petitions - it should be filed when you intend to run so you can file financial reports to IL and FEC. [21:10:53] <@Bosun> No, State parties take a more formal organization than 1. [21:11:34] <@Bosun> Three or four at least. [21:12:11] <@Bosun> We have alist of requirement in our bylaws. [21:13:06] <@Bosun> CA had bylaws and regular meetings befor it evaporated. [21:13:19] <yariValtean> Into thin air [21:13:33] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) left IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [21:13:41] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) joined the channel [21:14:30] <@Bosun> Give me a call Mitch and we will go through the paperwork [21:15:08] <@Bosun> yari can pick stuff from the bones of the old CA websiye. [21:15:26] <pmchi> Are you free tomorrow or did you want to talk now? [21:16:04] <@Bosun> I'll see if I can find a human behind the CA bones. [21:16:18] <@Bosun> You have my number Mitch? [21:16:19] <yariValtean> I have continued contact with Chris, and I'll keep working on finding humans behind the CA bones as well [21:16:32] <pmchi> Yes I do [21:16:44] <Olivia_> That California domain was created 2020-10-09 and expires next year. Maybe someone bought the domain and got all the old archives and put them all in that new website. [21:17:10] <yariValtean> The thing is, most of the links are completely broken [21:17:21] <yariValtean> So its just the main page for the most part [21:17:24] <@Bosun> I need to feed momma turtle, can we continue this next week? [21:17:29] <yariValtean> Of course [21:17:46] <yariValtean> Next week orders of business will include: [21:18:03] <yariValtean> CAPP revival and website, [21:18:12] <yariValtean> IL paperwork update [21:18:17] <@Bosun> Call me Mitch in 15 minutes. [21:18:23] <Olivia_> Goodnight everyone! Blog post: [21:18:23] <Olivia_> This weekend will be the @MassPirates Party Conference! You can still register if attending. Join us live at PPI’s Pirate Beer this Saturday! [21:18:23] <Olivia_> https://blog.pirate-party.us/this-weekend-will-be-the-masspirates-party-conference-you-can-still-register-if-attending-join-us-live-at-ppis-pirate-beer-this-saturday/ [21:18:27] <papegaai> Title: This weekend will be the @MassPirates Party Conference! You can still register if attending. Join us live at PPI’s Pirate Beer this Saturday! | United States Pirate Party (at blog.pirate-party.us) [21:18:38] <yariValtean> oh! Yes, thank you for the reminder [21:19:15] <@Bosun> Next week then. [21:19:29] <@Bosun> I will post minutes. [21:19:30] <yariValtean> okay thanks for being here everyone [21:19:36] <yariValtean> Have a good night [21:19:41] <pmchi> See you all Sunday! Joe I’ll call you soon [21:19:46] <@Bosun> GN [21:19:53] <pmchi> Goodnight gang [21:19:56] pmchi (~pmchi@gateway/webchat) left IRC (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/) [21:19:56] <Olivia_> TTYL and goodnight.