Outreach 11/09/2021
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Attendees
- Anthony Jay, INPP, outreach chair
- Micth Davilo, Chicagoland/ILPP, Swarmcare Manager
- Richard Carro, ILLPP alternative representative
- William Dappen, CA
- Rose Klein, CA
Agenda
Old Business
- 2022 Campaign Fundraising
New Business
- Discovery: New State Care Package
Summary
Transcript
[8:09 PM] Woden’s Day: Calling this meeting to order at 9:09 EST [8:10 PM] Woden’s Day: IDs? [8:10 PM] Woden’s Day: Anthony Jay, INPP, outreach chair [8:10 PM] pmchi: Mitch Davilo, Chicagoland/ILPP, Swarmcare Manager [8:11 PM] ILstateRep Richard: Richard carro/ILPP alternative rep [8:11 PM] Radiojoe: William Dappen CA rep [8:11 PM] Woden’s Day: Here is out agenda for the meeting: https://wiki.uspirates.org/w/index.php?title=Outreach_11/09/2021 Index.php [8:11 PM] ILstateRep Richard: @Woden’s Day and dare I say, you are very right. turnout increases on discord chats, whereas the other stuff dampens it [8:11 PM] ILstateRep Richard: we always have lively meetings on discord [8:11 PM] Woden’s Day: Haha, maybe sometimes too lively [8:12 PM] Woden’s Day: Anyways, it is 2022 campaign budget time [8:12 PM] ILstateRep Richard: lets go [8:12 PM] Woden’s Day: Richard proposed that we take this very seriously and devote resources to figuring it out. [8:12 PM] ILstateRep Richard: yeah, cause we have a damn good battle up ahead [8:12 PM] ILstateRep Richard: with signatures [8:13 PM] ILstateRep Richard: so we need the funding [8:13 PM] Woden’s Day: I suggest that we check in with the treasurer regularly while doing this project. That's something I can do, but something we should keep in mind [8:13 PM] Woden’s Day: Do you have any opening statements you'd like to make here, @ILstateRep Richard? [8:13 PM] ILstateRep Richard: yeah, it’s so crucial we stand up and devote resources to figuring what’s going on here [8:14 PM] ILstateRep Richard: if we create a 2022 fund it clears stress for the candidates in facing battles as money can help figure out stuff in campaigning [8:14 PM] ILstateRep Richard: a 0 dollar budget obviously does not work. [8:14 PM] ILstateRep Richard: and this also gets new candidates in the ring [8:15 PM] ILstateRep Richard: because it will clear some of their things about running [8:15 PM] ILstateRep Richard: I ties the floor [8:15 PM] ILstateRep Richard: *yield [8:15 PM] Woden’s Day: Excellent, thank you Richard. [8:15 PM] ILstateRep Richard: and if I may add [8:16 PM] ILstateRep Richard: @Radiojoe gave us an excellent idea that could help us with getting the campaign wing up [8:16 PM] ILstateRep Richard: the 2022 fund plus the bumper sticker thing is an excellent thing to start with [8:16 PM] ILstateRep Richard: head on [8:16 PM] ILstateRep Richard: we need the campaign wing up, that’s all [8:17 PM] Radiojoe: that was Abdullah, wasn't it? [8:17 PM] Woden’s Day: Should we possibly shift this discussion to that of an entire campaign wing then? Since it's been an idea [8:17 PM] ILstateRep Richard: yeah sure [8:18 PM] Woden’s Day: If we have the resources and time devotion to create such a sub-subcommittee, it would benefit us [8:18 PM] ILstateRep Richard: motion to create an campaign sub committee of outrewch that holds meetings on discord chat every Tuesday for 30 minutes? [8:18 PM] ILstateRep Richard: or when should timing be [8:19 PM] Woden’s Day: Well, hold on [8:19 PM] ILstateRep Richard: because this sub committee need what it deeerves [8:19 PM] Woden’s Day: Let's start with figuring out delegation [8:19 PM] ILstateRep Richard: sure. [8:19 PM] Woden’s Day: We may only need this one temporal meeting space if we effectively delegate tasks amongst our members [8:20 PM] ILstateRep Richard: the outreach committee can appoint 6 people [8:20 PM] Woden’s Day: Outreach has a lot right now. We have media to make, campaigns to run, a brand image to keep up, etc. [8:20 PM] ILstateRep Richard: that’s why we need a sub committee [8:21 PM] Woden’s Day: I think we could be willing to maybe give some executive power to our members. [8:21 PM] ILstateRep Richard: Kk [8:21 PM] Woden’s Day: We give them a responsibility and have them report back with us at outreach meetings, sort of like a microcosm of the PNC [8:22 PM] Woden’s Day: Richard, we've talked about giving you some increased responsibility, how would you feel about directing our campaigns? [8:22 PM] Woden’s Day: If the committee consents to this of course [8:22 PM] ILstateRep Richard: sure. [8:23 PM] ILstateRep Richard: what does Mitch think [8:23 PM] pmchi: I do believe that’s a great idea. I don’t think there’s anyone more eager to make this campaign a success than Richard [8:24 PM] Radiojoe: just to verify for my own sake, we are talking state elections at this point? [8:25 PM] ILstateRep Richard: 💯:piratechad: [8:25 PM] ILstateRep Richard: believe so. [8:25 PM] Woden’s Day: The scope of this will evolve and change with time most likely [8:26 PM] Woden’s Day: This is a short term solution [8:27 PM] ILstateRep Richard: true dat [8:27 PM] Woden’s Day: But if there are no objections, I suggest a motion to imbed Richard with the responsibility necessary to watch over the progress and health Mitch's campaign, and to come to us with reports, concern or discussion weekly. [8:27 PM] Woden’s Day: (I cannot make this motion myself) [8:28 PM] ILstateRep Richard: not me either [8:28 PM] ILstateRep Richard: since that would be kinda weird [8:28 PM] ILstateRep Richard: @pmchi @Radiojoe [8:28 PM] Woden’s Day: Nah, you can. Unless this is out of principle. But you are a voting member! [8:28 PM] ILstateRep Richard: it’s out of principle lol [8:28 PM] Radiojoe: I am not contextually prepared enough to make this motion [8:29 PM] Radiojoe: sorry [8:29 PM] ILstateRep Richard: sweat sweat [8:29 PM] pmchi: Motion to appoint Richard the responsibility of watching over the progress and health of the campaign, and to return with weekly reports, concerns or discussions [8:30 PM] Radiojoe: 2nd [8:30 PM] Woden’s Day: All in favor? [8:30 PM] Radiojoe: aye [8:30 PM] ILstateRep Richard: abstain [8:30 PM] Woden’s Day: @pmchi [8:31 PM] pmchi: Aye [8:31 PM] Woden’s Day: Sweet [8:32 PM] Woden’s Day: The first thing I suggest you two do is, of course, look in to financing campaigns and maybe try to speak to the treasurer about what is legal [8:32 PM] Woden’s Day: Because I have absolutely no clue [8:33 PM] ILstateRep Richard: yeah. [8:33 PM] ILstateRep Richard: I do have some strategies [8:34 PM] ILstateRep Richard: sweet @Woden’s Day but who will be in the committee [8:34 PM] ILstateRep Richard: or the mini sub com [8:34 PM] Radiojoe: it may also help to go through swarmwise for some referencing help, if you already have then good [8:34 PM] Woden’s Day: If you want to, you can organize meetings and see if people can attend them. However, I think it's best we don't make that a weekly thing. We're doing this for delegation [8:35 PM] Woden’s Day: I will be in touch [8:35 PM] ILstateRep Richard: not a weekly thing [8:35 PM] ILstateRep Richard: there doesn’t need to be a meeting [8:35 PM] ILstateRep Richard: just an open chat dialogue [8:35 PM] ILstateRep Richard: but we need to assemble a delegation tho [8:35 PM] Woden’s Day: Oh yeah yeah, you get to have those here. [8:35 PM] Woden’s Day: We're providing campaign some time to speak at each meeting [8:37 PM] ILstateRep Richard: BASED [8:38 PM] ILstateRep Richard: @pmchi crowdsource update [8:38 PM] Woden’s Day: Oh yeah, that's the website. [8:38 PM] ILstateRep Richard: I mean [8:38 PM] ILstateRep Richard: crowdPAC [8:39 PM] ILstateRep Richard: have u got an account [8:39 PM] Woden’s Day: Whatever the website [8:39 PM] ILstateRep Richard: but I like it a lot [8:39 PM] ILstateRep Richard: they don’t take off a lot [8:39 PM] ILstateRep Richard: only 3.5 [8:40 PM] pmchi: I didn’t set that up yet, thank you for reminding me I’ll knock it out [8:40 PM] ILstateRep Richard: thanks [8:40 PM] ILstateRep Richard: after that HOPEFULLY tomorrow I wanna knock out getting the voter lists for the ILPP [8:41 PM] Woden’s Day: Okay, sweet, keep it going and let us know if and when you need any help. Ya know my DMs are open. [8:41 PM] ILstateRep Richard: ofc [8:41 PM] Woden’s Day: If everyone is okay with that, I think we can send the fundraising back to discovery since we now have a team for said discovery [8:41 PM] ILstateRep Richard: also, [8:42 PM] ILstateRep Richard: you and me AJ we need to knock out the Mock budget reaserch [8:42 PM] Woden’s Day: Yes, don't let me forget [8:43 PM] ILstateRep Richard: can you do it after this meeting or when [8:43 PM] Radiojoe: be back soon [8:43 PM] ILstateRep Richard: wait [8:43 PM] ILstateRep Richard: can u let us know about ur bumper sticker plan [8:44 PM] Woden’s Day: I will put it on my to-do list and get you some of my own independent research by tomorrow evening and then maybe we can take it from there? Might have to be a "casual DMs over the course of a few days" thing [8:44 PM] Woden’s Day: Sorry, I am BOOKED [8:44 PM] Woden’s Day: Why do you think I'm delegating haha [8:46 PM] Woden’s Day: Do we think we can proceed to the car package business? I am aware Radiojoe has a plan, but we can still discuss [8:47 PM] ILstateRep Richard: THINGS TO KNOCK OUT CrowdPAC Set up Voter ID lists gotten from Chicago SoS Bumper sticker plan drawn up [8:47 PM] ILstateRep Richard: and AJ and is over the day mock budget [8:47 PM] ILstateRep Richard: hoping this can be done over the next week and a half [8:47 PM] ILstateRep Richard: tho a bit ambitious [8:48 PM] Woden’s Day: I think we can knock some of this out pretty quickly if we put our mind to it [8:48 PM] ILstateRep Richard: yep. [8:48 PM] ILstateRep Richard: @pmchi thoughts [8:48 PM] Woden’s Day: Though, I do note that the care package is not just a bumper sticker [8:49 PM] ILstateRep Richard: wait what’s in the care package then [8:49 PM] Woden’s Day: It's grown in scope a bit, it's about a few different things we should send to state parties (bumper stickers, pamphlets, things like that). And I might suggest we grow it in scope even more, because I see no reason why these things shouldn't just be accessible for state parties to order from us 24/7/365 [8:50 PM] Woden’s Day: If we can create a bumper sticker, we should do it in such a way that we know how to make more bumper stickers when we need more bumper stickers [8:50 PM] ILstateRep Richard: we don’t know how to make bumper stickers [8:50 PM] Woden’s Day: To me it sounds like the start of a pirate resources kiosk, and we should probbaly treat it as such [8:50 PM] ILstateRep Richard: and they’re a bit expensive [8:50 PM] ILstateRep Richard: and William wants 2k [8:51 PM] Woden’s Day: Oh yes of course [8:51 PM] ILstateRep Richard: so we need to draw a cheap affordable effective plan [8:51 PM] Woden’s Day: But once we find a method we should preserve that method [8:51 PM] Woden’s Day: New state parties won't need this crap once, you feel me? They'll need it over and over again [8:52 PM] ILstateRep Richard: my ideal, vision pirate party is outrewch and campaign committee meetings once every 3 hours. no sleep. Just plan [8:52 PM] ILstateRep Richard: [8:53 PM] ILstateRep Richard: hehhehehee [8:53 PM] Woden’s Day: Oh, to be paid to do what we do [8:53 PM] ILstateRep Richard: I would pay with free food [8:54 PM] ILstateRep Richard: everyone gets pizza shipped to their door every Saturday and a coffee [8:54 PM] ILstateRep Richard: mhmmm Richards ideal pirate party [8:54 PM] ILstateRep Richard: free food shipping’s MAX meeting time [8:54 PM] Woden’s Day: Haha, alright, let's get back on track [8:55 PM] Woden’s Day: Anything we should spend these last few minutes on? [8:55 PM] ILstateRep Richard: ok [8:55 PM] ILstateRep Richard: well, so next week I just report things. [8:55 PM] ILstateRep Richard: oh yeah and [8:55 PM] ILstateRep Richard: we need these things knocked out max 2.5 weeks [8:55 PM] ILstateRep Richard: hopefully we can see something down atleast [8:56 PM] Woden’s Day: I think we can. We have a good setup going. [8:56 PM] Woden’s Day: Though, I am assuming we are motioning to table the care package discussion? [8:57 PM] ILstateRep Richard: no [8:57 PM] ILstateRep Richard: I want Some plan built up [8:57 PM] ILstateRep Richard: here’s what I think [8:58 PM] ILstateRep Richard: 100 Pirate Bumper Stickers 5 buttons 8 Yard signs 100 Brochures [8:58 PM] ILstateRep Richard: the ideal care package [8:59 PM] Woden’s Day: I feel like those proportions are off, though I can't articulate why [8:59 PM] ILstateRep Richard: what would u think then [8:59 PM] Woden’s Day: If you want to go forward with these items in mind, we can, though I suggest we do some research first before we set numbers [9:00 PM] ILstateRep Richard: motion to set up an 1 hour research session [9:00 PM] Woden’s Day: Numbers seem like something we should do after we know how we're getting these things y'know? Then we can know price per unit and such [9:00 PM] ILstateRep Richard: to research everything [9:02 PM] ILstateRep Richard: 😍 nerdy for research sessions [9:02 PM] pmchi: I actually think yard signs are going to be of more value to us as a whole. Stickers can be place everywhere (and there’s already USPP logo stickers around IL-01 thanks to yours truly), but the yard signs will make a difference in the long run. More eyes will be on those [9:03 PM] ILstateRep Richard: 😍 WAIT WHAT [9:03 PM] ILstateRep Richard: there’s already stickers! [9:03 PM] ILstateRep Richard: WHAT [9:03 PM] ILstateRep Richard: never knew about that [9:04 PM] Woden’s Day: That's why I'm suggesting we do this with longevity in mind. If we do this the right way, we can setup a care package AND create the beginnings of a Pirate Shop [9:04 PM] ILstateRep Richard: mhmmm ❤️ we need the research session [9:04 PM] ILstateRep Richard: we needa knock things out on the list [9:05 PM] Woden’s Day: Yes yes, we will. I'm just suggesting we do this care package in a way condusive to future ordering of things [9:05 PM] Woden’s Day: There is a motion on the table for a research session. Though, that just sounds like pirate chat. [9:06 PM] ILstateRep Richard: pirate chat but down to the wrk [9:06 PM] ILstateRep Richard: research various prices for it and create a net price thing and mhmm [9:06 PM] ILstateRep Richard: that’s my kinda stuff [9:06 PM] Woden’s Day: Haha, you don't need a motion for that, we already do that all the time lol [9:06 PM] Woden’s Day: I would suggest we table this discussion and get to that. [9:07 PM] ILstateRep Richard: today’s pirate chat could be about that or [9:07 PM] Yari: are we meeting on here or on irc? [9:07 PM] Yari: ah shoot I'm really late [9:07 PM] Yari: damn [9:07 PM] ILstateRep Richard: meeting on here [9:07 PM] Woden’s Day: Yeahhhhhh. No worries though, we were just talking about having a lively pirate chat. [9:07 PM] ILstateRep Richard: and discord chats are so good [9:08 PM] ILstateRep Richard: they’re smooth [9:08 PM] Woden’s Day: I would like to suggest a motion to adjourn. [9:08 PM] ILstateRep Richard: smooth I tell ya [9:08 PM] ILstateRep Richard: Objection, 1s [9:08 PM] ILstateRep Richard: what if [9:08 PM] ILstateRep Richard: we try to have an experiment on discord chat meetings vs irc [9:08 PM] Yari: Rose Klein, CA [9:08 PM] Yari: and I agree [9:08 PM] ILstateRep Richard: because look [9:09 PM] ILstateRep Richard: discord meetings are more lively, really smooth [9:09 PM] ILstateRep Richard: and it’s easy to and record [9:09 PM] ILstateRep Richard: and it’s really easy and good [9:09 PM] Woden’s Day: Can you put that into an executable sentence? [9:10 PM] Woden’s Day: Like "I motion we meet on Discord next week" [9:10 PM] Yari: I move that the outreach committee hold the next two meetings on discord [9:10 PM] ILstateRep Richard: motion we meet on discord next week [9:10 PM] ILstateRep Richard: second [9:10 PM] Woden’s Day: Alrighty, motion on the table (Yari's) [9:10 PM] Woden’s Day: All in favor? [9:10 PM] ILstateRep Richard: aye [9:10 PM] Yari: aye [9:11 PM] Woden’s Day: @Radiojoe @pmchi [9:11 PM] pmchi: Aye [9:12 PM] Woden’s Day: I will take Radiojoe's offline status as an absence [9:12 PM] ILstateRep Richard: motion that discord is the OFFICIAL substitute of the outrewch committee it if irc or whatever doesn’t work [9:12 PM] Woden’s Day: Motion on the table [9:12 PM] ILstateRep Richard: @pmchi @Yari aye pls [9:13 PM] Yari: I would like us to have some more discussion pending the next two meetings and how they go before we do that [9:13 PM] pmchi: I think we should test the two week trial. I’m not opposed but I will abstain [9:13 PM] ILstateRep Richard: motion withdrawn [9:13 PM] ILstateRep Richard: anyways, I love Yaris motion [9:13 PM] ILstateRep Richard: the crisp in the discord meetings [9:13 PM] ILstateRep Richard: it makes everything so smooth and easy [9:13 PM] ILstateRep Richard: crisp [9:13 PM] Yari: I move we adjourn, if the discord motion has passed [9:13 PM] Woden’s Day: I do agree. [9:13 PM] Woden’s Day: Oh yes, motion passed [9:13 PM] ILstateRep Richard: motion to adjourn if the discord motion pass [9:14 PM] Woden’s Day: I will take that as a second [9:14 PM] ILstateRep Richard: MOTION TO ADJOURN [9:14 PM] Woden’s Day: All in favor? [9:14 PM] Yari: aye [9:14 PM] pmchi: Aye [9:14 PM] ILstateRep Richard: abstain [9:15 PM] ILstateRep Richard: cause I want 5 hour meetings [9:15 PM] ILstateRep Richard: [9:15 PM] Woden’s Day: Haha, keep that attitude and we will continue to have a fantastic committee [9:15 PM] Woden’s Day: Meeting adjourned at 10:15 EST