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April 6th, 2025
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Apr 06 15:11:32 *Now talking on #uspp
Apr 06 15:11:32 *Topic for #uspp is: #uspp Welcome to the United States Pirate Party - uspirates.org | Have a question? Best to ask at our Discord: discord.com/invite/HRPaPWMT4y | Sign up: support.uspirates.org | Meetings: Sundays 9-10pm ET either here or youtube.com/channel/UCVV01rkn5InPRkG8qNjADiA | Agenda: wiki.uspirates.org/w/index.php?title=Meeting_Minutes
Apr 06 15:11:32 *Topic for #uspp set by jokeefe!~u@kyjij49wa98p6.PirateIRC (Wed Jun 5 21:12:49 2024)
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Apr 06 21:00:54 <Wanda-FL>Ahoy
Apr 06 21:01:04 <LightRiderTX>Greetings
Apr 06 21:01:20 <BlaseH29>Hello!
Apr 06 21:01:26 <Wanda-FL>Is Drew here?
Apr 06 21:01:33 <oncobot>Hi.
Apr 06 21:03:02 <Wanda-FL>This seems a little awkward
Apr 06 21:03:10 <Wanda-FL>We may be running late getting started
Apr 06 21:03:11 <NomadOfNorad>Ahoy ye maties....
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Apr 06 21:03:48 <Wanda-FL>Ahoy
Apr 06 21:03:50 <NomadOfNorad>And... well... this wouldn't be the first time the meeting stared way late
Apr 06 21:03:58 <Dausume> Howdy
Apr 06 21:04:01 <NomadOfNorad> started, even
Apr 06 21:04:24 <Wanda-FL> I'm a bit embarrassed to start this one late though because we seem to have guests today
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Apr 06 21:05:03 <BlaseH29> No need to feel embarrassed Wanda. It’s all fine
Apr 06 21:06:12 <NomadOfNorad> Absolutely nothing can go wrong... >>click<< go wrong... >>click<< go wrong... >>click<< go wrong...
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Apr 06 21:07:07 <pmchi> Ahoy
Apr 06 21:07:25 <BlaseH29> Ahoy pmchi!
Apr 06 21:07:29 <Wanda-FL> Ahoy!!
Apr 06 21:07:41 <NomadOfNorad> Ahoy pmchi
Apr 06 21:08:02 * Dausume (~u@hriqtqf8ddctk.PirateIRC) has joined
Apr 06 21:08:09 <Wanda-FL> Welcome back
Apr 06 21:08:12 <NomadOfNorad> ahoy again Dausume
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Apr 06 21:09:00 <Wanda-FL> What exactly is the plan..? Since we seem to have a thinner than expected turnout
Apr 06 21:09:10 <pmchi> With TX, FL, and IL present I think that’s 3/7 PNC members, so that’s not quorum
Apr 06 21:09:43 <Wanda-FL> I'm extremely dissapointed
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Apr 06 21:09:47 <LightRiderTX> Anyone in contact with Drew?
Apr 06 21:09:54 <pmchi> We still have guests; I’m willing to stick around in case we got more and/or anyone wants to chat about Pirate business
Apr 06 21:10:08 <Wanda-FL> I messaged the gc onb signal. Nobody seems to have read it
Apr 06 21:10:11 <Wanda-FL> on*
Apr 06 21:10:12 <NomadOfNorad> Well, if the others don't show up, we can at least have an informal discussion, I suppose. Roll with the punches.
Apr 06 21:10:39 <NomadOfNorad> And yeah, what pmchi said
Apr 06 21:10:53 <Wanda-FL> Yeah, it would be good to hear from them
Apr 06 21:11:15 <BlaseH29> I’m from AZ so AZ is also present
Apr 06 21:11:38 <Wanda-FL> Oh we were referring to PNC member states
Apr 06 21:12:00 <Dausume> I managed to get a docker-compose of Jupyter Notebooks up and working, have yet to make a GitHub for it though. But we have a foundation for people to use traditional data science via open source for policy development now
Apr 06 21:12:05 * EliMass (~u@wc5d6pbcgyfqq.PirateIRC) has joined
Apr 06 21:12:20 <pmchi> That’s Massachusetts, which makes quorum
Apr 06 21:12:25 <pmchi> We still need Drew or Ty
Apr 06 21:12:32 <Wanda-FL> I checked jitsi just to make sure we didn't have our wires crossed
Apr 06 21:12:51 <pmchi> And welcome @BlaseH29 and @oncobot! Glad to see you both make it
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Apr 06 21:13:13 <BlaseH29> Glad to be here!
Apr 06 21:13:13 <oncobot> Thank you. It's good to be here.
Apr 06 21:13:53 <NomadOfNorad> They DID officially say at the end of the last jitsi that this week we'd be on the IRC
Apr 06 21:14:04 <Wanda-FL> this is more like the turnout I wanted to see. but I'm still disappointed to not see our captain
Apr 06 21:14:16 <NomadOfNorad> But yeah, did make sense to chack the jitsi tonight just in case.
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Apr 06 21:14:18 <LightRiderTX> Hopefully he's ok
Apr 06 21:14:34 <Wanda-FL> Yeah. Does anyone have a way to check on him?
Apr 06 21:14:38 <BlaseH29> Did he have a prior obligation that forced him to miss the meeting?
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Apr 06 21:15:31 <Wanda-FL> I dont think so but I couldve missed something
Apr 06 21:15:37 <NomadOfNorad> Well, I do hope he didn't get abductificated by aliens or something. 0o
Apr 06 21:16:15 <Wanda-FL> Do we proceed without since we have quorum?
Apr 06 21:16:50 <BlaseH29> If drew is not going to make it, or at least in time, I’d say so
Apr 06 21:17:28 <Dausume> There has been plenty of abductifying being done by Trump admin too not just aliens
Apr 06 21:17:47 <Dausume> Yeah probably informal then?
Apr 06 21:18:02 <Wanda-FL> is Eli the only officer present?
Apr 06 21:18:11 <Wanda-FL> no
Apr 06 21:18:20 <Wanda-FL> I forgot you were an officer Dustin :sob:
Apr 06 21:19:36 <LightRiderTX> Thanks for doing the legwork on that Dausume
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Apr 06 21:20:37 <Wanda-FL> :c
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Apr 06 21:21:09 <BlaseH29> Sorry had to reconnect
Apr 06 21:21:14 <Dausume> Should we do a generic call for anything to report?
Apr 06 21:21:28 <Wanda-FL> Sounds good
Apr 06 21:21:33 <Dausume> Informally, or to make plans for what to talk about nxt time
Apr 06 21:21:35 <NomadOfNorad> I'd say we'd need to ID first
Apr 06 21:21:58 <Wanda-FL> I mean it seems like we're doing an informal meeting since Captain and VC are absent
Apr 06 21:22:18 <Dausume> Okay, IDs first, despite informal meeting for people who want to. This is Dustin from the DMV
Apr 06 21:22:32 <Wanda-FL> Wanda from Florida
Apr 06 21:22:37 <Dausume> DC-Maryland-Virginia metro area
Apr 06 21:22:43 <LightRiderTX> Frank Flores, TX
Apr 06 21:22:44 <BlaseH29> Blase from Arizona
Apr 06 21:22:50 <NomadOfNorad> true, but still useful to have the official "I'm X from Y" stuff on the record for the meeting, just for completeness
Apr 06 21:22:51 <EliMass> Elijah McGee Massachusetts
Apr 06 21:22:53 <oncobot> Paul in Mississippi
Apr 06 21:22:57 <NomadOfNorad> David Hall, Florida rep
Apr 06 21:23:42 <Wanda-FL> oo nice to see Mississippi here
Apr 06 21:24:16 <Wanda-FL> is Mitch still here?
Apr 06 21:24:18 <oncobot> Thank you. I don't hear that often. Long-time Mississippi denizen. Florida native.
Apr 06 21:25:00 <LightRiderTX> Welcome
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Apr 06 21:25:14 <Wanda-FL> always nice to see more southern pirates
Apr 06 21:25:27 <LightRiderTX> Old business?
Apr 06 21:26:00 <Wanda-FL> I dont believe we have anything carrying over from last meeting
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Apr 06 21:26:46 <Blase-AZ> Sorry had to reconnect again. My phone likes to reset safari and be difficult
Apr 06 21:27:02 <pmchi> Jolly Mitch Davilo, Chicagoland/ILPP
Apr 06 21:27:11 <Wanda-FL> Welcome back Mitch!!
Apr 06 21:27:23 <pmchi> Sorry about that! Working hahah
Apr 06 21:27:34 <Wanda-FL> It's all good!
Apr 06 21:27:42 <Dausume> With the lack of response I will presume there is no old business.
Apr 06 21:27:46 <Wanda-FL> and no worries Blase, IRC can be tricky
Apr 06 21:28:22 <pmchi> No @Dausume I don’t believe there’s any old business. Last week was the Transhumanist meeting, next week is the Pan-American tables event
Apr 06 21:28:31 <Blase-AZ> Thank you Wanda. This is my first time using IRC so just trying to get the handle of it
Apr 06 21:28:39 <pmchi> Speaking of: I will get that hand out ready by Wednesday
Apr 06 21:28:50 <Dausume> Is there any new Pirate Party specific issues or nee business to address?
Apr 06 21:29:32 <pmchi> @Blase-AZ: IRC is a hassle but it’s a necessary evil (for now). IRCCloud makes it a lot easier (won’t kick you every couple minutes)
Apr 06 21:29:47 <Dausume> Okay, tabling for next week is a topic. Anything to say on that? Anywhere in particular being tabled? Farmer’s markets or something?
Apr 06 21:30:33 <Blase-AZ> Ok I’ll keep that in mind for next time. Thanks pmchi
Apr 06 21:30:38 <Dausume> Any materials being brought for advertising the USPP or Locla parties to the tabling?
Apr 06 21:30:46 <pmchi> I had originally suggested going to local Veteran's Parks, and I still think that’s the way to do it, but any park or permissible area is good
Apr 06 21:30:55 <NomadOfNorad> I'm using HexChat on the pc, also a good choice
Apr 06 21:31:04 <oncobot> First-time IRC user. Went through the website. Smooth sailing.
Apr 06 21:31:05 <pmchi> I will have a handout for tables, just need it tweaked so it’s printer friendly
Apr 06 21:31:46 <Dausume> need any help with that? Or is it pretty much together?
Apr 06 21:33:20 <Dausume> Could bring that as a topic to work on as a working session this Tuesday for an outreach session or something for exercising social media and design skills
Apr 06 21:33:25 <pmchi> It’s pretty much finished; just need to adjust some things so it prints out correctly. I’m about 98% finished with it
Apr 06 21:33:38 <Dausume> roger
Apr 06 21:33:47 <pmchi> Actually yes! I’m off Tuesday and can be totally present for any workshopping
Apr 06 21:34:35 <pmchi> It would work best actually
Apr 06 21:34:50 <Dausume> Okay cool will make sure that is on the capendar
Apr 06 21:34:58 <pmchi> 😎🏴☠️
Apr 06 21:35:40 <pmchi> So @Blase-AZ @oncobot what brings you both here? To come to IRC must mean you’re interested in the party
Apr 06 21:37:26 <Blase-AZ> Yes! I’ve been told that the old group in AZ died years ago and for all I know, I’m the only representative from Arizona so I would like to help rebuild whatever was left and get a AZ Pirate party
Apr 06 21:37:53 <pmchi> Fantastic! What drew you into the USPP?
Apr 06 21:38:21 <oncobot> I followed the work of the Icelandic Pirate Party c2008. They were doing good things. But there was not US party. Recently became aware that was no longer the case as I began to wonder what the nation's future political landscape would look like.
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Apr 06 21:40:53 <oncobot> Watched the Discord for a time. Looked at the Platform in Progress. Decided to look a little further. This seemed to be the way that is done. So, dropped in.
Apr 06 21:40:57 <pmchi> That’s great! Welcome aboard to the two of you. Always great to see more come on
Apr 06 21:41:00 <LightRiderTX> Well with the coalition we want to build hopefully it's brighter
Apr 06 21:41:58 <Dausume> Awesome, hopefully the furture political landscape will be filled with open source software enabling the average person to hold their elected leaders accountable and have reports as good as elected officials available to everyone, with Direct Democracy available for people to determine if their elected leader is actually following the will of the people, using very specific definitions.. is my hope
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Apr 06 21:42:56 <Wanda-FL> It may be good to give some advice on how to get a state party started *looks at Mitch*
Apr 06 21:43:01 <Dausume> as well as open source hardware and manufacturing freeing people from dependence on manipulative companies, and allowing a foundation for holding companies accountable
Apr 06 21:43:07 <pmchi> Love Free and Open, love direct democracy, may we usher in the best 🙏
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Apr 06 21:43:51 <Blase-AZ> Sorry another connection issue
Apr 06 21:44:08 <Wanda-FL> It's alright! It happens
Apr 06 21:44:16 <pmchi> Sure! If you wanna start a state party, you are in the right place: every state needs a PNC rep and you being here means your state currently has a PNC rep. If you want to get a state party going, you’ll need (but are not limited to):
Apr 06 21:44:28 <pmchi> • a social media presence for your state party
Apr 06 21:44:31 <pmchi> • a website
Apr 06 21:44:39 <pmchi> • at least 2-3 people
Apr 06 21:45:03 <pmchi> Check those boxes and getting a state party officially recognized is as easy as
Apr 06 21:45:17 <pmchi> (Getting recognized gives you voting rights at these meetings)
Apr 06 21:45:37 <oncobot> I do like FOSS. My question of "landscape" comes from what I see as a vacuum created by the 2 dominant parties. I began by asking ChatGPT (yeah, yeah) "under the following scenario, what third party rises to the top?" From that response, a few steps later, I learned the Pirates has Americanized.
Apr 06 21:47:34 <oncobot> Not sure I can bring another person in Mississippi. But, I'll watch for another to appear. And, if the opportunity presents itself ...
Apr 06 21:47:54 <pmchi> The AI thing is something I’m looking forward to discussing at great lengths during our Conference, at which I hope we come to a consensus. That being said, I use ChatGPT myself, I’m not gonna ostracize you for you
Apr 06 21:47:56 <Blase-AZ> I’ll do what I can
Apr 06 21:48:08 <pmchi> So what did you mean by "Americanized”?
Apr 06 21:48:29 <NomadOfNorad> I read that as "They now have an America presence"
Apr 06 21:48:30 <oncobot> That it is no longer strictly a European party.
Apr 06 21:48:33 <Wanda-FL> I think they just mean there's an US party now
Apr 06 21:48:38 <Wanda-FL> yeah
Apr 06 21:48:40 <NomadOfNorad> yeah
Apr 06 21:49:47 <oncobot> Also, back then, the Pirates had a narrow agenda. Not so well suited to the US system. So, I guess a US party would have to broaden scoppe, which appears to be happening.
Apr 06 21:50:03 <Wanda-FL> also, @Blase-AZ most of us are willing to help if needed, and when y'all are ready in Arizona I'd be happy to sponsor y'alls PNC membership
Apr 06 21:50:35 <Dausume> If people need help with website stuff the upcoming outreach may also be a good time for that with us doing a workshop
Apr 06 21:52:23 <Dausume> We are closing in on the nd of the meeting time, does anyone have anything they would like to bring up or ask in general? Open floor like?
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Apr 06 21:53:27 <pmchi> I’m about ready to wrap up. It sounds like we'll be in Discord on Tuesday for anyone interested in workshopping some things for the party! It’ll be a good chance to ask questions without waiting for a typed response
Apr 06 21:53:32 <Wanda-FL> yeesh, Safari is not being kind to you Blase :sob:
Apr 06 21:54:16 <BlaseH29> Connection error again. Yeah it is not. Anyway, I would appreciate that Wanda!
Apr 06 21:54:23 <NomadOfNorad> is thee a suitable, stand-alone IRC client for that deice?
Apr 06 21:54:26 <NomadOfNorad> device
Apr 06 21:54:48 <NomadOfNorad> there a (blast this cheaply-made freaking keyboard)
Apr 06 21:54:55 <Wanda-FL> I'll try to be at that Tuesday discord meeting
Apr 06 21:55:02 <Wanda-FL> what time are those held nowadays?
Apr 06 21:55:24 <pmchi> NomadOfNorad IRCCloud!
Apr 06 21:55:50 <Wanda-FL> it could just be a browser issue too. maybe trying firefox would work
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Apr 06 21:56:03 <NomadOfNorad> or Opera, come to that
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Apr 06 21:56:15 <BlaseH29> I use Firefox all the time on my computer just not on my phone
Apr 06 21:56:16 <Dustin> 8pm EST
Apr 06 21:56:31 <Dustin> Is the Outreach time
Apr 06 21:56:48 <oncobot> Firefox on Linux (FOSS^2)
Apr 06 21:56:57 <Dustin> it will be in the Pirate Chat Voice Channel on discord
Apr 06 21:57:20 <Wanda-FL> I think that would be a good time to talk more about Arizona (and maybe Mississippi and Ohio)
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Apr 06 21:57:43 <Wanda-FL> I'll try to be there and I'll try to get Mars to be there. He would've popped in if he wasnt working
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Apr 06 21:58:30 <Dustin> If people are in Ohio and actively doing things I could help on occasion since my fmaily lives there and i visit sometimes…. but yeah, we are about up on time and I would move to adjourn?
Apr 06 21:58:49 <LightRiderTX> Second
Apr 06 21:59:15 <oncobot> Not a Discord Voice user. If my ears start burning, I'll figure the Magnolia State came up. Good night, all. Thank you for the hospitality.
Apr 06 21:59:30 <Wanda-FL> On the topic of Ohio, we have a few folks there including my boyfriend and I might be moving up there soon so I do want to get the ball rolling there.
Apr 06 21:59:43 <Wanda-FL> I made an Ohio Pirates discord for discussion on that
Apr 06 21:59:45 <Dustin> Thanks for coming!!
Apr 06 21:59:53 <Wanda-FL> Aye on the motion to adjorun
Apr 06 22:00:14 <Blase-AZ> Happy to meet you all!
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Apr 06 22:00:30 <Wanda-FL> Nice to meet you too. Looking forward to seeing you on Tuesday if possible
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Apr 06 22:00:42 <Blase-AZ> I’ll try!
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Apr 06 22:01:10 <LightRiderTX> Thanks all
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