PNC 08/12/19

Minutes

Record of the meeting

 

[9:02pm] Sayyida: I call this meeting to order
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[9:02pm] Sayyida: Megan Klein Chair WI
[9:02pm] OGPAF: Johann Drolshagen, Webmaster
[9:02pm] Pirate_Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Vice-Chair, MA
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[9:02pm] Bosun: Joseph Klein Secretary WI
[9:03pm] Sayyida: So, Lets talk about the co-op filing status
[9:03pm] Sayyida: that is where we left off last time
[9:03pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts
[9:04pm] Sayyida: im sorry jokeefe I thought I saw you post your credentials already
[9:04pm] Sayyida: my appologies
[9:04pm] jokeefe: not an issue
[9:04pm] Sayyida: Bosun, you have the floor
[9:05pm] Bosun: I sent copies of the incorporation papers to SAB list.
[9:06pm] OGPAF: SAB?
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[9:06pm] Pirate_Joe: We need to add OGPAF to the SAB as well
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[9:06pm] jokeefe: http://sab.uspirates.org/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi
[9:06pm] papegaai: Title: Subscribe to a Mailing List (at sab.uspirates.org)
[9:06pm] Bosun: With your permission I will file for the EIN and the IRS 527 status.
[9:07pm] Pirate_Joe: https://crew.uspirates.org/index.php?q=civicrm/a/#/mailing/2
[9:07pm] jokeefe: You cannot file with the IRS and the FEC. It is one or the other
[9:07pm] Bosun: Sorru FEC.
[9:08pm] Bosun: Sorry FEC.
[9:08pm] Pirate_Joe: Unfortunatly I never got a chance to call the OCPF
[9:08pm] Sayyida: OCPF?
[9:08pm] jokeefe: I can call tomorrow if you want
[9:08pm] jokeefe: Mass. campaign finance folks
[9:08pm] Pirate_Joe: Office of Campaign and Political Finance
[9:08pm] jokeefe: Moving forward with the EIN seems wise.
[9:09pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion to move forward with the EIN
[9:09pm] Pirate_Joe: All in favor?
[9:09pm] Sayyida: aye
[9:09pm] Pirate_Joe: or seconds?
[9:09pm] OGPAF: aye
[9:09pm] Bosun: aye
[9:09pm] OGPAF: second
[9:09pm] Pirate_Joe: ty
[9:09pm] Pirate_Joe: jokeefe?
[9:09pm] jokeefe: aye on behalf of Massachusetts
[9:09pm] Bosun: OGAF cannot vote or second.
[9:09pm] OGPAF: ooops
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[9:10pm] Pirate_Joe: https://www.ocpf.us/
[9:10pm] papegaai: Title: OCPF - Welcome to the OCPF Home Page (at www.ocpf.us)
[9:10pm] Bosun: I was going by this https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/political-organizations/filing-requirements-1
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[9:11pm] Sayyida: now that that  is taken care of, we need to talk about bylaws
[9:11pm] Sayyida: I know Pirate_Joe is working on them, or planning to and I am on board with that as wel
[9:11pm] Sayyida: well*
[9:12pm] Sayyida: is there a meeting time we should set up?
[9:12pm] jokeefe: This is the FEC guide for PACs - https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/guides/?tab=political-action-committees
[9:12pm] papegaai: Title: Guides | FEC (at www.fec.gov)
[9:12pm] Pirate_Joe: I plan to work on them Wednesday at 5:30 pm est
[9:12pm] Sayyida: awesome Pirate_Joe
[9:12pm] Sayyida: I will set up a time to join in with you
[9:13pm] Bosun: The District of Columbia code regarding a cooperative association = see SAB mail - has most of what should be reflected in the bylaws.
[9:13pm] jokeefe: Would be good to invite people on sab to help
[9:13pm] Pirate_Joe: I hope Jokeefe, Sayyida and Bosun can join me
[9:13pm] Sayyida: jokeefe, I need to ask, are we planning on getting money from the germans? hahaha
[9:13pm] jokeefe: not legally
[9:13pm] Bosun: That would be illegal.
[9:13pm] Sayyida: so we are just not legally?
[9:13pm] Sayyida: hence the pac right?
[9:13pm] Pirate_Joe: I would advise against it
[9:14pm] Pirate_Joe: This need to be 100% American
[9:14pm] jokeefe: We haven’t spent enough to file with the FEC.
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[9:14pm] Sayyida: Pirate_Joe, i know im just going to say every current canidate is running from pacs but why are we embracing it?
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[9:14pm] Sayyida: if not for german or PPI money
[9:15pm] Pirate_Joe: In the interest of transparency, we should uphold the standards that a PAC holds us to.
[9:15pm] Sayyida: PACs aren't transparent
[9:15pm] Sayyida: they are designed to not be if you dont want them to be
[9:15pm] Pirate_Joe: Since we are doing that anyways, it will allow for our funds to not be touched unless absolutely needed.
[9:15pm] Sayyida: that really worries me
[9:16pm] Pirate_Joe: We have to report and make public everything we spend money on.  It becomes public record.
[9:16pm] Bosun: The FEC filing for a party requires all donors in their filing.
[9:16pm] Sayyida: until someone wants to not do that anymore
[9:16pm] jokeefe: FEC PACs have to file their expenditures and contributions and itemize them if the amounts meet certain thresholds
[9:16pm] Pirate_Joe: ^
[9:16pm] jokeefe: we can always lower those thresholds if we want.
[9:16pm] Bosun: I think you are confused.
[9:17pm] Sayyida: i still don't like it at all there are koch pacs for all sorts of shady things and if im confused im sorry