PNC 05/20/19

::PNC Meeting Agenda::

--- 05/20/2019 21:00h EDT ---

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Minutes

Record of the meeting

[9:02pm] Sayyida: well its 1 past the hour lets call the meeting [9:02pm] Pirate_Joe: May I add something to the agenda first? [9:02pm] Bosun: Joe Klein Wisconsin [9:02pm] Bosun: ok [9:02pm] Sayyida: Yes please I think I dont even have it set up becuase of the email [9:02pm] Pirate_Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Massachusetts, Vice Chair [9:02pm] K`Tetch_: yes, my bad, it was the PPI meeting today that was cancelled [9:03pm] Sayyida: megan klein wisconsin chair [9:03pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts (observer) [9:03pm] Bosun: Yes because of the EU Election [9:03pm] Pirate_Joe: I would like to add becoming an official PAC [9:03pm] Sayyida: we will discuss it Pirate_Joe [9:04pm] Pirate_Joe: Decisions/Endorsements? [9:04pm] jokeefe: do we have an agenda? [9:04pm] Sayyida: not set up will you do it jokeefe ? [9:07pm] jokeefe: https://pnc.piratenpad.de/PNC-2019-05-20 [9:07pm] Sayyida: thank you [9:08pm] jokeefe: not sure what the previous meeting is [9:09pm] Sayyida: I don't know, I have been MIA for the last 2 [9:09pm] Pirate_Joe: the last two meetings did not occur due to lack of attendance. Please refer the the meeting before that. [9:09pm] Sayyida: that was the one we decided on weekly meetings and 30 min [9:09pm] Pirate_Joe: Aye [9:10pm] Pirate_Joe: I figured it would take some time to get used to, so no worries on my end. [9:10pm] Sayyida: Aye, so alls well that ends well [9:11pm] Sayyida: I know elections are coming up [9:11pm] Sayyida: when are we having them? [9:11pm] Pirate_Joe: Are these for longer sessions? [9:11pm] Sayyida: I thought we agreed on a short term for now then longer this next [9:12pm] Pirate_Joe: IE. 1 year post [9:12pm] Sayyida: yes that [9:12pm] Sayyida: Pirate_Joe, did you add to the agenda what you needed? [9:12pm] Sayyida: is everything needed to discuss on the agenda I should say [9:12pm] Pirate_Joe: I corrected it. [9:13pm] Sayyida: cool lets kick it off. I would like to discuss electoins since that can be the shorter topic [9:14pm] Sayyida: is that ok with everyone? [9:14pm] Pirate_Joe: Aye [9:14pm] Bosun: ok [9:14pm] Sayyida: ok well June 3rd is I THINK our 6 mo end [9:15pm] Sayyida: I think we should hold elections the following week june 13 [9:16pm] Pirate_Joe: Sounds about right. We did do a bit to form up our current platform. Reached out to state parties and reached out to our EU counterparts as well [9:16pm] Sayyida: we did and I am proud of us [9:17pm] jokeefe: Election was set for July 29th - https://wiki.pirate-party.us/PNC_01/28/19 [9:17pm] papegaai: Title: PNC 01/28/19 - United States Pirate Party (at wiki.pirate-party.us) [9:17pm] Pirate_Joe: We recently set regular meetings at regular intervals. We still have time to accomplish a few more tasks if possible. [9:17pm] Sayyida: OH GREAT! [9:17pm] Sayyida: I didnt remember the date thank you jokeefe [9:17pm] Sayyida: ill put that in my calandar [9:18pm] Pirate_Joe: Yeah, he keeps us all on point, thank you jokeefe for being our rock! [9:18pm] jokeefe: records are good [9:18pm] Pirate_Joe: Aye [9:18pm] Sayyida: well now that the date is settled, and this was clarified, lets move to Pirate_Joe [9:18pm] Sayyida: is that ok with everyone? [9:19pm] Pirate_Joe: Well, it's a topic that we have discussed before [9:20pm] Pirate_Joe: If we open a medium to store funds, eventually we can do events, like a Washington D.C. trip for a National meeting. [9:20pm] Sayyida: yes but not in detail i dont think [9:20pm] Sayyida: agreed we should form a pac, I just don't know the legal ramifications [9:20pm] Pirate_Joe: A Trump protest hosted by us? [9:20pm] Sayyida: Pirate_Joe, that would be a blast [9:21pm] Bosun: I have browsed the IRS code on the PAC subject. [9:21pm] Sayyida: Bosun, good, and? [9:21pm] Pirate_Joe: Jokeefe, could you assist us with such an endeavor? [9:22pm] jokeefe: sure [9:22pm] Pirate_Joe: Since we formed one in MA, I'm sure the process for a national one is similar. [9:22pm] Pirate_Joe: The question would be finding a bank that we would have access to nationally. [9:22pm] Bosun: It is all about following the rules. [9:22pm] Pirate_Joe: ^ [9:23pm] Sayyida: so should we do some digging on major banks and fees? Pirate_Joe ? [9:23pm] Pirate_Joe: Yeah, but they are usually very nice and are happy to help. [9:23pm] Bosun: Any good national bank not run by crooks. [9:23pm] Pirate_Joe: Well, usually there are very few fees for a PAC [9:23pm] Sayyida: Bosun, HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [9:24pm] Pirate_Joe: Welp, that's impossible. [9:24pm] jokeefe: File with FEC as a PAC - https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/guides/?tab=political-action-committees [9:24pm] papegaai: Title: Guides | FEC (at www.fec.gov) [9:24pm] jokeefe: Do not go the IRS 527 route [9:25pm] Sayyida: jokeefe, dangerous? [9:25pm] jokeefe: Really easy - https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registering-pac/ [9:25pm] papegaai: Title: Registering as a PAC | FEC (at www.fec.gov) [9:25pm] Sayyida: who wants to hold the keys? [9:25pm] Bosun: 527 is a political party, [9:25pm] jokeefe: Not dangerous, just that FEC is easier and more true to our values [9:25pm] Sayyida: we technically dont have a keeper of the loot [9:25pm] Pirate_Joe: Well, here is what I was thinking [9:26pm] jokeefe: Party committees are registered with the FEC not IRS [9:26pm] jokeefe: But we don’t qualify to be a party committtee yet. [9:26pm] Pirate_Joe: We can get everything ready and form the PAC the day before elections and to close [9:27pm] Pirate_Joe: Why not Jokeefe? [9:27pm] jokeefe: “A nonconnected committee must register within 10 days of raising or spending more than $1,000 in contributions or expenditures during a calendar year” - https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registering-pac/registering-nonconnected-committee/ [9:27pm] papegaai: Title: FEC | PAC | Registering as a nonconnected PAC (at www.fec.gov) [9:27pm] jokeefe: or earlier [9:28pm] Pirate_Joe: I will be able to contribute soon, I was planning on give it to the MA Party, but would be happy to use it to for this PAC [9:28pm] Sayyida: so why not have it after elections or start the process day of [9:28pm] Pirate_Joe: If we start raising money, we can qualify [9:29pm] jokeefe: We need a treasurer [9:29pm] Pirate_Joe: It may be a bit much to do both at the same time, I think we should focus on one at a time to do them both justice. [9:29pm] Sayyida: Pirate_Joe, understood [9:29pm] Sayyida: I say start with the elections making sure we have a treasurer [9:29pm] Pirate_Joe: I agree but...... [9:30pm] Sayyida: but? [9:30pm] Sayyida: we are going into over time [9:30pm] Sayyida: is everyone ok with that? [9:30pm] Pirate_Joe: In the absence of the treasurer, the chair should hold the responsibilities. In fact, any missing members duties fall back on the chair/vice chair when they are absent. [9:31pm] Sayyida: so are you wanting to start raising funds now then pass it to the treasurer? [9:31pm] Pirate_Joe: Or so I think it should go. Please correct me if I am incorrect [9:31pm] Pirate_Joe: Makes sense no to wait [9:31pm] Pirate_Joe: *not to [9:31pm] Sayyida: I agree that is how it should go [9:32pm] jokeefe: guessing chair and treasurer should not be the same person. [9:32pm] Sayyida: it makes sense with the fall of power [9:32pm] Sayyida: It should not. that kind of power with one person is dangerous [9:32pm] Pirate_Joe: Chair and Treasurer have different focuses [9:32pm] Bosun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEDbBXRr5BY [9:33pm] Sayyida: I think the secretary should have it until a treasurer is made [9:33pm] Sayyida: or can we agree that all 3 have power until the treasurer is made? [9:33pm] Sayyida: no decisoin can be made without all 3 signing off on it? [9:34pm] Pirate_Joe: I am of the mind set that the all officers on the board should have access to the funds if requested in approved. However only a few names on the bank account would be the normal situation. [9:35pm] Sayyida: so the 3 members right [9:35pm] Pirate_Joe: Usually the Chair and the Treasurer. In this case, since I am the one to contribute, I would prefer if I hold the temporary office of the treasurer in addition to my usual duties. [9:36pm] jokeefe: We should define who has signature power and put it in our bylaws [9:36pm] Sayyida: jokeefe, exactly [9:36pm] Pirate_Joe: But I would have to say it makes the most sense to keep as few names on that account as possible. [9:36pm] Sayyida: Im of the mind that this is a great power and needs to be checked if needed [9:36pm] Sayyida: Pirate_Joe, i think you should hold it as you volunteer for the postion [9:36pm] Pirate_Joe: Lest we end up with those with both grievance and sticky fingers [9:37pm] Pirate_Joe: Acting Quartermaster is a good title, if I may. [9:37pm] Sayyida: Pirate_Joe, haha true. [9:38pm] Pirate_Joe: I will consult with Jokeefe to get this going sometime this weekend and start working on it as soon as possible the following week. [9:38pm] Pirate_Joe: If that works with you Jokeefe? [9:38pm] jokeefe: sure [9:38pm] Sayyida: Pirate_Joe, will you set up the pac with jokeefe and keep this power? both of you? [9:38pm] Bosun: If MAPP is doing this it should be a MA bank branch - you will need signatures. [9:39pm] Pirate_Joe: No, I did not seek Jokeefe to form the PAC [9:39pm] Pirate_Joe: You would be the chair Sayyida, so you would need to be on the bank account. [9:39pm] Sayyida: I would need to be in the same room as you then [9:39pm] Pirate_Joe: I will run a list of sutible banks and have my report for next week., [9:40pm] Sayyida: Pirate_Joe, ok. sounds like a plan [9:40pm] Pirate_Joe: 8suitable [9:40pm] Sayyida: lol [9:40pm] Pirate_Joe: *, lol [9:40pm] Pirate_Joe: Thank you for take the extra time [9:40pm] Pirate_Joe: That is all I have for this week. [9:40pm] Bosun: No I think any with a Wisconsin or Chicago branch can Sayyida's signature card. [9:41pm] Bosun: ... process ... [9:41pm] Pirate_Joe: I have friends in the banking world, I'll see what I can do. [9:41pm] Sayyida: Pirate_Joe, make sure on me bing in the same room [9:41pm] Sayyida: Thank you [9:41pm] Sayyida: we need to call this meeting, its 11 min over [9:41pm] Pirate_Joe: I second that call [9:41pm] Sayyida: Pirate_Joe, you know how to reach me [9:41pm] Pirate_Joe: Aye [9:41pm] Bosun: Ok - we read FEC pamphlets tonight. [9:42pm] Pirate_Joe: Motion to adjourn? [9:42pm] Sayyida: meeting adjourned. [9:42pm] Bosun left the chat room. (Quit: Leaving) [9:42pm] Pirate_Joe: Thank you everyone, I hope you have a great night! [9:42pm] Sayyida: Thank you everyone! [9:42pm] jokeefe: good night

1 - ATTENDEES

1.1 - Members of the PNC

Attending

• Bosun: Joe Klein Wisconsin
• Pirate_Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Massachusetts, Vice Chair
• Sayyida: megan klein wisconsin chair

Excused

Unexcused

Probation

1.3 - Officers of the PNC

• Chairperson - Meg Klein
• Vice Chair - Joseph Onoroski
• Secretary - Joseph Klein

1.4 - Other Attendess

• jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts (observer)

2 - PROCEEDINGS

• Meeting called to order at: _____pm EDT
• Meeting chaired by _________
• Secretary for this meeting is _________
• Quorum is established: _____ Members present
• Logging Enabled:

3 Review of previous minutes

https://pnc.piratenpad.de/2019-03-25

4 - Agenda Items

Review last meeting election time discuss when it time to have it National PAC formation

Tasks

Status of:

1. update website.
2. Update the wiki - specifically which state chapter status
3. Bonus round! CIVICRM

- AOB -

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• Next meeting: ______ at _:__PM EDT
• Meeting closed: ____________