PNC 02/27/2022

Agenda

Discussion

New Business

• Alabama State Pirate Party (introduction)
• Statement by PPI/PPEU on Putin's aggression

Attending

• pmchi: Mitchel Davilo, Chicagoland/ILPP, Swarmcare Manager
• Wodensday: Anthony Jay, IN
• Joe: Joseph Onoroski, MAPP, Treasurer, Massachusetts
• Radiojoe: William Dappen, CA corep

Probationary States

• Florida
• Georgia
• New York
• Oregon
• Washington

Non-Voting

• yari: Rose Klein, PNC Chair
• jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Secretary, Massachusetts
• Miles_Aus: Miles Whiticker, National President (Pirate Party Australia), Branch Representative (Fusion Party Australia)

Summary

Meeting called to order at 9:04pm EST.

Reports

• IT: Met. Blog software updated. Haven’t been able to reach out to Bosun. Will look at solving the issues with crew
• Platform: Had good discussion about the nature of the platform. Still need to complete the task of the list.
• Outreach: Trying out our new structure. Nothing of note project wise happened this week, but we discovered a few bugs in the new method we're using to run the meetings, and I consider that a win in my book
• Swarmcare: Just a reminder about Ethan and I’s 3 day summit, hosted by Revolutionary Blackout, highlighting 3rd Party candidates, which has been set for the weekend of March 18th-20th. Pennsylvania and Kentucky are continuing to progress and their existence is inevitable
• Treasurer: Nothing to report
• Secretary: Updating the notes

New Business

Motion to post the PPI/PPEU statement on Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Passed 3-0-0. Forwarded to the outreach committee to post.

Meeting adjourned at 10:02pm EST.

Minutes

Record of the meeting

[9:04pm] yari: Thank you jokeefe.  calling this meeting of the PNC to order at 9:04 pm EST.
[9:04pm] yari: IDs please
[9:04pm] Joe joined the chat room.
[9:04pm] Joe left the chat room. (connection closed)
[9:04pm] Joe joined the chat room.
[9:04pm] Wodensday: If it's about ideological differences between PPAU and EUOPP, I may suggest we set up a different meeting because I can see that being a thought provoking discussion worth its own timeslot.
[9:05pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Secretary, Massachusetts
[9:05pm] Joe: Joseph Onoroski, MAPP, Treasurer, Massachusetts
[9:05pm] yari: Rose Klein, PNC Chair
[9:05pm] Wodensday: Anthony Jay, IN
[9:06pm] Miles_Aus: @wodensday we have already motioned in support, just wanted to hear if you all had or were developing a stance
[9:07pm] yari: pmchi and Miles_Aus , IDs are appreciated if you want to participate
[9:07pm] yari: Let's go ahead and get started.
[9:07pm] pmchi: Mitchel Davilo, Chicagoland/ILPP, Swarmcare Manager
[9:07pm] Wodensday: Ah, gotcha. Illinois and I have been workshopping one but life has gotten in the way this weekend
[9:07pm] Wodensday: Should be in line with PPI's
[9:08pm] yari: Reports first: IT - jokeefe, anything to report?
[9:08pm] Miles_Aus: Miles Whiticker, National President (Pirate Party Australia), Branch Representative (Fusion Party Australia)
[9:09pm] jokeefe: Met. Blog software updated. Haven’t been able to reach out to Bosun. Will look at solving the issues with crew
[9:11pm] yari: Thank you jokeefe. Next, Platform - Joe, anything to report?
[9:13pm] Joe: Had good discussion about the nature of the platform. Still need to complete the task of the list.
[9:13pm] yari: Thank you Joe. Next, Outreach - Wodesnday, anything to report?
[9:14pm] Joe: Though I seem to be missing the platform board atm.
[9:14pm] Wodensday: Trying out our new structure. Nothing of note project wise happened this week, but we discovered a few bugs in the new method we're using to run the meetings, and I consider that a win in my book
[9:15pm] Wodensday: Progress toward an even better committee
[9:15pm] yari: Thank you Wodensday. Next, swarmcare - pmchi, anything to report?
[9:15pm] pmchi: Just a reminder about Ethan and I’s 3 day summit, hosted by Revolutionary Blackout, highlighting 3rd Party candidates, which has been set for the weekend of March 18th-20th
[9:15pm] pmchi: Otherwise no new news. Pennsylvania and Kentucky are continuing to progress and their existence is inevitable
[9:16pm] yari: You sent an email saying that Alabama PP would be here tonight. Do you know if that's still the case?
[9:17pm] pmchi: I did sent the email, unfortunately it seems they’re not in attendance tonight? I haven’t heard from them since I was told they’d come
[9:17pm] yari: Fair enough, thank you.
[9:17pm] yari:  Next, treasury - Joe, anything to report?
[9:19pm] Joe: Nothing to report
[9:19pm] yari: Thank you Joe. Next, secretary - jokeefe, anything to report?
[9:20pm] jokeefe: Just updating the notes
[9:20pm] yari: Thank you jokeefe. That's reports. Any discussion on the reports before we move on to business?
[9:20pm] Wodensday: None here
[9:21pm] yari: Hearing no disucssion, we can move on to business. I had no old business on the docket - so we can move on to new business.
[9:22pm] yari: Let's talk about the PPI/PPEU statement, and, presumably, whether to support it.
[9:22pm] yari: Or more importantly, what else can be done.
[9:22pm] Joe: I support it.
[9:23pm] yari: A link to the statement, for those who have not seen: https://pp-international.net/2022/02/joint-statement-by-european-pirates-and-pirate-parties-international-on-putins-aggression-against-ukraine/
[9:23pm] papegaai: Title: Joint Statement by European Pirates and Pirate Parties International on Putin’s Aggression Against Ukraine – Pirate Parties International (at pp-international.net)
[9:24pm] yari: Joe would you move that we support it as a body, and if so - how would you suggest we publish that support?
[9:24pm] Wodensday: I move that we support the statement, and allow ourselves to promote in the future via our channels of communication if we so wish
[9:25pm] jokeefe: This is Pirate Party of Russia’s statement https://pirate--party-ru.translate.goog/vojna-putina-s-ukrainoj/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
[9:25pm] papegaai: Title: Война Путина с Украиной | Пиратская партия России | PPRU (at pirate--party-ru.translate.goog)
[9:25pm] Joe: I move to support it though how we promote it would but up to you.
[9:25pm] Wodensday: (I will be right back)
[9:25pm] Wodensday left the chat room. (connection closed)
[9:26pm] Joe: I would simply link to it via blogs and twitter.
[9:27pm] yari: Those are similar enough - If Wodensday is willing I would be happy to consider that a motion and a second. It seems that the main question for discussion right now is how to promote
[9:28pm] Joe: I'll second Woden
[9:28pm] Miles_Aus: here is PPAU's draft statement, going out in the next few hours https://pad.pirateparty.org.au/p/r.1a1cb448c0c4b054ad41b098b75c7718
[9:28pm] papegaai: Title: Pirate Party Australia Etherpad (at pad.pirateparty.org.au)
[9:30pm] yari: Miles' example brings up an important point, which is: should our support simply remain in the form of repeating what was said in the PPI/PPEU release? Or do we want to add anything?
[9:30pm] Miles_Aus: maybe something about a geriatric president with a finger on the nuke button?
[9:32pm] jokeefe: Anyone’s finger on the red button is bad, no matter their age
[9:32pm] Joe: Yes, being against totally destruction is a good stance.
[9:33pm] yari: It's interesting how the word 'geriatric' in politics feels to me like a deep insult, despite its literal meaning being just... "old"
[9:34pm] yari: Wodensday's motion has been properly seconded by Joe and so we are in discussion, by the way.
[9:34pm] yari: The motion on the table is: That we support the statement, and allow ourselves to promote in the future via our channels of communication if we so wish
[9:35pm] yari: With 'the statement' referring in this case to the joint statement by PPI/PPEU on Putin's aggression.
[9:37pm] yari: I will note that while Wodensday said he would be 'right back' it has been ten minutes, and so this body is technically out of quorum...
[9:37pm] yari: I'm going to ping him, just to check
[9:37pm] yari: Discussion or debate, in the meantime.
[9:39pm] yari: hearing no discussion or debate, I would move this to a vote - however
[9:40pm] yari: We cannot vote without a quorum
[9:40pm] yari: RIP
[9:40pm] Radiojoe joined the chat room.
[9:41pm] yari: AH! hello!
[9:41pm] Radiojoe: Hey hey
[9:41pm] yari: ID please for the record
[9:41pm] Radiojoe: William Dappen, CA corep. The person who gets on in a second will be the same, but my computer instead of phone
[9:42pm] yari: We have a quorum of states again. The current motion on the table is: That we support the statement [by PPI/PPEU on Putin's aggression in Ukraine], and allow ourselves to promote in the future via our channels of communication if we so wish
[9:43pm] yari: Radiojoe, do you wish to discuss or debate the motion?
[9:43pm] Radiojoe left the chat room. (connection closed)
[9:43pm] yari: ... must be switching to the computer.
[9:43pm] jokeefe: hopefully
[9:44pm] yari: It would be nice to get at least one thing done tonight
[9:44pm] yari: Did anyone have other things they wanted brought up during new business?
[9:44pm] yari: (Joe jokeefe pmchi)
[9:45pm] jokeefe: I do not.
[9:45pm] Joe: Nor I
[9:45pm] pmchi: None
[9:46pm] Radiojoe joined the chat room.
[9:47pm] Radiojoe: AAAH, sorry, phone died as I was writing, I support this motion wholehartedly
[9:47pm] yari: Acknowledged. Further question: The motion on the table right now is about Putin's aggression in Ukraine - How else can the USPP help to mitigate international imperialist violence besides publishing this statement?
[9:47pm] yari: Cool, thank you Radiojoe
[9:47pm] Joe: I have nothing to add to the sadness that is the current state of affairs. Only that what is being done on a world stage is appalling and should never be the case.
[9:48pm] yari: ^ agreed
[9:48pm] yari: Okay, hearing no further discussion of the motion, we move to the vote
[9:48pm] yari: Please type aye or nay
[9:48pm] yari: to vote on the motion
[9:49pm] Radiojoe: yay
[9:49pm] Joe: Aye
[9:49pm] Radiojoe: ore aye, mb
[9:49pm] Radiojoe: or*
[9:49pm] yari:  understood
[9:49pm] yari: pmchi?
[9:52pm] yari: Can I even close the vote without a quorum of states voting? that just feels weird.
[9:53pm] Joe: Can you contact pmchi directly?
[9:53pm] yari: Only on discord - which I already have
[9:54pm] jokeefe: pmchi would be abstaining
[9:54pm] Radiojoe: Has Pmchi spoken on this topic before?
[9:54pm] Radiojoe: if he is, we may be able to project his vote from his opinion?
[9:54pm] yari: I will not assume pmchi's vote, of course
[9:54pm] yari: No.
[9:54pm] Radiojoe: ok
[9:54pm] yari: we cannot do that
[9:54pm] pmchi: Aye
[9:55pm] yari: ayyyy there he is
[9:55pm] pmchi: Sorry I’m driving
[9:55pm] yari: no worries - your safety comes first
[9:55pm] yari: okay, with that the vote is closed. Three ayes and the motion passes
[9:55pm] yari: We have sucessfully done one thing tonight
[9:56pm] jokeefe: who will post the statement?
[9:56pm] Radiojoe: alright! Hey, one is better than none
[9:56pm] yari: I'm going to suggest that we fork the responsibility of publishing that support to outreach, although I am happy to help with that.
[9:57pm] yari: Unless there are objections to that
[9:58pm] Radiojoe: That makes sense, I'll be at the outreach this week so I can uptdate parties who did not make it here
[9:58pm] yari: hearing no objections, let's go with that model. I will contact Wodensday after this meeting and discuss the publishing with him. Anyone who wishes to be involved, please let me know.
[9:58pm] yari: And yes - it would be discussed at the committee
[9:59pm] yari: Okay we are at time, roughly. I'm happy to accept a motion to adjourn. Unless there are other matters the members would like to discuss?
[10:00pm] Radiojoe: seems not, do I have the ability o call motions?\
[10:00pm] yari: yes
[10:01pm] Radiojoe: I move we adjourn this PNC meeting
[10:01pm] Joe: 2nd
[10:01pm] yari: it has been properly moved and seconded that we adjourn. Are there any objections to adjourning?
[10:02pm] yari: hearing no objections, this meeting of the PNC is adjourned at 10:02pm EST