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| + | *Anthony Jay, IN | ||
| + | *Rose Klein, CA, PNC chair | ||
| + | *Mitchel Davilo, Chicagoland/ILPP, Swarmcare Manager | ||
= Agenda = | = Agenda = | ||
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The following resolution by Radiojoe was passed: | The following resolution by Radiojoe was passed: | ||
| − | The outreach committee proposes a multileveled system of editing articles submitted to the USPP website | + | |
| − | Articles are first submitted by the writer via a dedicated section on the USPP website. The writer does not need any roles or qualifications to submit a work. The work is then announced in a channel dedicated to the writers and editors as an article to be edited. | + | The outreach committee proposes a multileveled system of editing articles submitted to the USPP website. In this system, three parties shall participate, 1. the writer, 2. the editor(s), and 3. the moderators. |
| − | It is then edited by users who have been given the role | + | *Articles are first submitted by the writer via a dedicated section on the USPP website. The writer does not need any roles or qualifications to submit a work. The work is then announced in a channel dedicated to the writers and editors as an article to be edited. |
| − | After the article has been edited by at least one editor, it will be brought by the editor to a moderator and the original writer (who shall not be anonymous) to confirm the submission. Upon confirmation the article will be released. If the article is denied, it shall be brought back to the editors to confirm or deny | + | *It is then edited by users who have been given the role of "editor" in the public discord servers, which will be given to users who ask an admin for the role and agree to follow a set of rules and guidelines based around maintaining the original idea of the article. The writer shall be able to edit alongside the editors during this process, but shall not be the final person to edit the article prior to the next step. |
| + | *After the article has been edited by at least one editor, it will be brought by the editor to a moderator and the original writer (who shall not be anonymous) to confirm the submission. Upon confirmation the article will be released. If the article is denied, it shall be brought back to the editors to confirm or deny it for re-edit, If the article is denied the article will be dropped, if it is accepted it will begin at the 2nd step of the process once again. After the article is denied three times by a moderator or the writer, a irc meeting will be set up to discuss the article, including but not limited: to the moderators and writer involved, and any main editors of the article. | ||
= Transcript = | = Transcript = | ||
| + | <nowiki> | ||
| + | [8:03:37 PM] <wodensday> Now that we have signs of life, I think we can continue | ||
| + | [8:03:49 PM] <wodensday> IDs? | ||
| + | [8:03:54 PM] <wodensday> Anthony Jay, IN | ||
| + | [8:04:40 PM] <yari> Rose Klein, CA, PNC chair | ||
| + | [8:05:59 PM] <pmchi> Mitchel Davilo, Chicagoland/ILPP, Swarmcare Manager | ||
| + | [8:06:22 PM] <wodensday> Here is our agenda: https://wiki.uspirates.org/w/index.php?title=Outreach_08/10/2021 | ||
| + | [8:06:23 PM] <papegaai> Title: Outreach 08/10/2021 - United States Pirate Party (at wiki.uspirates.org) | ||
| + | [8:06:55 PM] <wodensday> And, as it may be useful, I will link last week's meeting minutes as well: https://wiki.uspirates.org/w/index.php?title=Outreach_08/03/2021 | ||
| + | [8:06:57 PM] <papegaai> Title: Outreach 08/03/2021 - United States Pirate Party (at wiki.uspirates.org) | ||
| + | [8:07:41 PM] <wodensday> We are continuing our discussion on our blog's editorial process. | ||
| + | [8:09:37 PM] <wodensday> From what I understand, this is our progress so far: | ||
| + | [8:09:43 PM] <wodensday> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/29861b16ebc4d76b986d9c1870f9f042/pasted.txt | ||
| + | [8:09:50 PM] <wodensday> From last week's meeting minutes | ||
| + | [8:12:07 PM] <yari> What do we still need to discuss? | ||
| + | [8:13:45 PM] <yari> Honestly, it seems pretty complete to me | ||
| + | [8:13:49 PM] <wodensday> That would be up to you | ||
| + | [8:17:04 PM] <yari> Okay, cool - I propose that the committee accept the process that was outlined by RadioJoe in the previous meeting, with one additional edit for clarity: that the phrase "USPP website" in the second sentence of the proposal be changed to "USPP Discord" | ||
| + | [8:18:37 PM] <wodensday> Pmchi, thoughts? | ||
| + | [8:18:55 PM] → yariValtean has joined | ||
| + | [8:19:26 PM] <yariValtean> Internet blip, apologies - This is Rose Klein once again, different ID | ||
| + | [8:19:55 PM] <pmchi> Are you proposing that submissions be made through the Discord? | ||
| + | [8:20:50 PM] <yariValtean> Pmchi I thought that was always the idea, I suppose I thought that "website" was a typo, but I'm happy to amend my motion. | ||
| + | [8:21:13 PM] <ceiling> reminder that Discord is a spyware platform | ||
| + | [8:21:27 PM] ← yari has left (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | ||
| + | [8:21:32 PM] <wodensday> Ceiling, please ID if you'd like to participate | ||
| + | [8:21:41 PM] <wodensday> Carry on though otherwise, debate welcome | ||
| + | [8:22:43 PM] <pmchi> I believe the idea was always to submit to the USPP website, then Editors on Discord receiver the ping of notification that an article was submitted and needs editor approval | ||
| + | [8:22:55 PM] <pmchi> At least, how I originally envisioned | ||
| + | [8:23:56 PM] <wodensday> There have been a few slightly different ideas, I believe. All with the same spirit | ||
| + | [8:24:00 PM] <yariValtean> Is that possible? I suppose the writers could have draft post creation permissions? | ||
| + | [8:24:21 PM] <yariValtean> I'm not sure if there's a way to do that with Wordpress permissions | ||
| + | [8:25:08 PM] <yariValtean> Agreed that it would be better to do things that way, just didn't think it was possible, still not sure that it is | ||
| + | [8:25:21 PM] <yariValtean> Would be happy to have someone more proficient than I chime in | ||
| + | [8:25:28 PM] <yariValtean> Otherwise I'd have to do research | ||
| + | [8:25:41 PM] <wodensday> Wordpress is flexible on this | ||
| + | [8:26:00 PM] <wodensday> It is possible for one class of users to submit articles for the approval of admins | ||
| + | [8:26:39 PM] <wodensday> Editing miiiiight be possible? I did run a blog on wordpress with a similar set-up to this once, but I forget the specifics | ||
| + | [8:28:00 PM] <yariValtean> Worst case, editors could copy-paste to their own computer and edit there, reupload. | ||
| + | [8:28:28 PM] <wodensday> At the very least, the editor-admin process can happen entirely on discord. | ||
| + | [8:28:35 PM] <wodensday> *Wordpress | ||
| + | [8:28:42 PM] <yariValtean> Either way - I amend my motion. I propose that the committee accept the process that was outlined by RadioJoe in the previous meeting. | ||
| + | [8:28:49 PM] <wodensday> And the writer-editor process can happen on discord | ||
| + | [8:28:55 PM] <wodensday> If necessary or wanted | ||
| + | [8:29:07 PM] <pmchi> Second Yari | ||
| + | [8:29:37 PM] <wodensday> Amendment to the amendment, restoring the first amendment noted. | ||
| + | [8:29:44 PM] <wodensday> All in favor? | ||
| + | [8:30:07 PM] <pmchi> Aye | ||
| + | [8:30:13 PM] <yariValtean> aye | ||
| + | [8:30:36 PM] <wodensday> Motion passed. | ||
| + | [8:31:53 PM] <wodensday> With that being settled, we have half a meeting left. Is there anything anyone would like to bring up? | ||
| + | [8:33:03 PM] <pmchi> I’m putting myself on a timer and giving myself a deadline. I’ll send to you how it looks throughout the week wodensday but I will be submitting the first draft of the pamphlet next week | ||
| + | [8:33:34 PM] <wodensday> Excellent, I look forward to seeing it! | ||
| + | [8:34:20 PM] <yariValtean> I regret that I must leave soon, actually. Pmchi I was going to ask about the pamphlet, deadlines can help. :) | ||
| + | [8:34:57 PM] <yariValtean> Pmchi do you know what your next immediate step is for the pamphlet? | ||
| + | [8:35:08 PM] <wodensday> Noted. | ||
| + | [8:36:35 PM] <pmchi> A couple things, still mostly just formatting and filling in some gaps right now | ||
| + | [8:36:40 PM] <yariValtean> Only other thing I have to bring up is that twitter is now connected - so both of you are on there, I would recommend that you make sure you are set to only post to USPirates after confirmation, and perhaps we could set some sort of posting schedule? | ||
| + | [8:37:58 PM] <wodensday> A posting schedule is a good idea. or, might I suggest a certain amount of tweets per week. Something like that | ||
| + | [8:37:59 PM] <pmchi> Maybe schedule tweets for 90 minutes ahead? If nothing is addressed in that time, tweet posts | ||
| + | [8:38:21 PM] <wodensday> Tweets don't need to be perfectly timed, just regularly pushed | ||
| + | [8:39:19 PM] <yariValtean> Agreed with all. | ||
| + | [8:39:52 PM] <yariValtean> by "after confirmation" I literally mean there is a setting on tweetdeck | ||
| + | [8:40:20 PM] <yariValtean> "Add a confirmation step before tweeting as @USPirates" | ||
| + | [8:40:53 PM] <yariValtean> I suggest turning this on so that you don't accidentally tweet to pirates when you meant to tweet to personal account | ||
| + | [8:40:56 PM] <wodensday> I can check that right now | ||
| + | [8:41:00 PM] <pmchi> Just turned it on lol thank you for the clarification | ||
| + | [8:41:08 PM] <pmchi> Side note, a gentleman from WV emailed us. I reached out and invited him to tonight’s meeting, wanted to see if he’s in attendance? | ||
| + | [8:41:44 PM] <wodensday> Is that you, Ceiling? | ||
| + | [8:41:54 PM] <yariValtean> Other than ceiling, who I have actually seen here on occasion, I think everyone here is the normal lurkers | ||
| + | [8:42:48 PM] <wodensday> Confirmation step on by the way, thank you Yari | ||
| + | [8:44:27 PM] <wodensday> Don't wanna reblog tweets from members of wonderful B-list pop rock band Franz Ferdinand on official pirate media | ||
| + | [8:45:08 PM] <yariValtean> Anyway I need to go - I would suggest that next meeting we discuss posting schedule for twitter more in depth, whether posting happens by then or not. | ||
| + | [8:45:09 PM] <yariValtean> Also for the proposal that was accepted, I'll make sure all the stuff on Discord is connected ASAP (in the next two days), and I'll start looking into website setup. If someone could try submitting an article, that would be great. | ||
| + | [8:45:45 PM] <wodensday> Noted, noted, and noted. Thank you so much! | ||
| + | [8:46:00 PM] <yariValtean> Great, leaving now - byeee | ||
| + | [8:46:05 PM] ← yariValtean has left (Quit: Leaving) | ||
| + | [8:46:07 PM] <pmchi> Have a good night! | ||
| + | [8:48:05 PM] <wodensday> On that note, pmchi, anything you want to take these ten minutes to discuss? | ||
| + | [8:49:03 PM] <wodensday> Sorry if I haven't been incredibly on it this meeting, you are one of five conversations I am currently having lol | ||
| + | [8:49:27 PM] <pmchi> No, nothing significant. Needed to talk about the pamphlet and the West Virginia Pirate, meaning I’ve covered everything I needed to | ||
| + | [8:49:50 PM] <wodensday> Good, good | ||
| + | [8:49:59 PM] <wodensday> Hopefully we can keep that West Virginia pirate around | ||
| + | [8:55:12 PM] <wodensday> Pmchi, Do I have your permission to adjourn? I don't want to close off like some kind of undemocratic tyrant | ||
| + | [8:55:42 PM] <pmchi> Of course! I’m certainly not opposed | ||
| + | [8:55:48 PM] <pmchi> I could use a nap lol | ||
| + | [8:55:56 PM] <wodensday> Sounds good lol | ||
| + | [8:56:04 PM] <wodensday> Go take yourself a well deserved rest | ||
| + | [8:56:27 PM] <wodensday> This meeting has been adjourned at 9:56 PM eastern time. | ||
| + | </nowiki> | ||
Latest revision as of 21:01, 10 August 2021
Attendees
- Anthony Jay, IN
- Rose Klein, CA, PNC chair
- Mitchel Davilo, Chicagoland/ILPP, Swarmcare Manager
Agenda
Old Business
- Website: writer recruitment and editorial process
Summary
The following resolution by Radiojoe was passed:
The outreach committee proposes a multileveled system of editing articles submitted to the USPP website. In this system, three parties shall participate, 1. the writer, 2. the editor(s), and 3. the moderators.
- Articles are first submitted by the writer via a dedicated section on the USPP website. The writer does not need any roles or qualifications to submit a work. The work is then announced in a channel dedicated to the writers and editors as an article to be edited.
- It is then edited by users who have been given the role of "editor" in the public discord servers, which will be given to users who ask an admin for the role and agree to follow a set of rules and guidelines based around maintaining the original idea of the article. The writer shall be able to edit alongside the editors during this process, but shall not be the final person to edit the article prior to the next step.
- After the article has been edited by at least one editor, it will be brought by the editor to a moderator and the original writer (who shall not be anonymous) to confirm the submission. Upon confirmation the article will be released. If the article is denied, it shall be brought back to the editors to confirm or deny it for re-edit, If the article is denied the article will be dropped, if it is accepted it will begin at the 2nd step of the process once again. After the article is denied three times by a moderator or the writer, a irc meeting will be set up to discuss the article, including but not limited: to the moderators and writer involved, and any main editors of the article.
Transcript
[8:03:37 PM] <wodensday> Now that we have signs of life, I think we can continue [8:03:49 PM] <wodensday> IDs? [8:03:54 PM] <wodensday> Anthony Jay, IN [8:04:40 PM] <yari> Rose Klein, CA, PNC chair [8:05:59 PM] <pmchi> Mitchel Davilo, Chicagoland/ILPP, Swarmcare Manager [8:06:22 PM] <wodensday> Here is our agenda: https://wiki.uspirates.org/w/index.php?title=Outreach_08/10/2021 [8:06:23 PM] <papegaai> Title: Outreach 08/10/2021 - United States Pirate Party (at wiki.uspirates.org) [8:06:55 PM] <wodensday> And, as it may be useful, I will link last week's meeting minutes as well: https://wiki.uspirates.org/w/index.php?title=Outreach_08/03/2021 [8:06:57 PM] <papegaai> Title: Outreach 08/03/2021 - United States Pirate Party (at wiki.uspirates.org) [8:07:41 PM] <wodensday> We are continuing our discussion on our blog's editorial process. [8:09:37 PM] <wodensday> From what I understand, this is our progress so far: [8:09:43 PM] <wodensday> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/29861b16ebc4d76b986d9c1870f9f042/pasted.txt [8:09:50 PM] <wodensday> From last week's meeting minutes [8:12:07 PM] <yari> What do we still need to discuss? [8:13:45 PM] <yari> Honestly, it seems pretty complete to me [8:13:49 PM] <wodensday> That would be up to you [8:17:04 PM] <yari> Okay, cool - I propose that the committee accept the process that was outlined by RadioJoe in the previous meeting, with one additional edit for clarity: that the phrase "USPP website" in the second sentence of the proposal be changed to "USPP Discord" [8:18:37 PM] <wodensday> Pmchi, thoughts? [8:18:55 PM] → yariValtean has joined [8:19:26 PM] <yariValtean> Internet blip, apologies - This is Rose Klein once again, different ID [8:19:55 PM] <pmchi> Are you proposing that submissions be made through the Discord? [8:20:50 PM] <yariValtean> Pmchi I thought that was always the idea, I suppose I thought that "website" was a typo, but I'm happy to amend my motion. [8:21:13 PM] <ceiling> reminder that Discord is a spyware platform [8:21:27 PM] ← yari has left (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [8:21:32 PM] <wodensday> Ceiling, please ID if you'd like to participate [8:21:41 PM] <wodensday> Carry on though otherwise, debate welcome [8:22:43 PM] <pmchi> I believe the idea was always to submit to the USPP website, then Editors on Discord receiver the ping of notification that an article was submitted and needs editor approval [8:22:55 PM] <pmchi> At least, how I originally envisioned [8:23:56 PM] <wodensday> There have been a few slightly different ideas, I believe. All with the same spirit [8:24:00 PM] <yariValtean> Is that possible? I suppose the writers could have draft post creation permissions? [8:24:21 PM] <yariValtean> I'm not sure if there's a way to do that with Wordpress permissions [8:25:08 PM] <yariValtean> Agreed that it would be better to do things that way, just didn't think it was possible, still not sure that it is [8:25:21 PM] <yariValtean> Would be happy to have someone more proficient than I chime in [8:25:28 PM] <yariValtean> Otherwise I'd have to do research [8:25:41 PM] <wodensday> Wordpress is flexible on this [8:26:00 PM] <wodensday> It is possible for one class of users to submit articles for the approval of admins [8:26:39 PM] <wodensday> Editing miiiiight be possible? I did run a blog on wordpress with a similar set-up to this once, but I forget the specifics [8:28:00 PM] <yariValtean> Worst case, editors could copy-paste to their own computer and edit there, reupload. [8:28:28 PM] <wodensday> At the very least, the editor-admin process can happen entirely on discord. [8:28:35 PM] <wodensday> *Wordpress [8:28:42 PM] <yariValtean> Either way - I amend my motion. I propose that the committee accept the process that was outlined by RadioJoe in the previous meeting. [8:28:49 PM] <wodensday> And the writer-editor process can happen on discord [8:28:55 PM] <wodensday> If necessary or wanted [8:29:07 PM] <pmchi> Second Yari [8:29:37 PM] <wodensday> Amendment to the amendment, restoring the first amendment noted. [8:29:44 PM] <wodensday> All in favor? [8:30:07 PM] <pmchi> Aye [8:30:13 PM] <yariValtean> aye [8:30:36 PM] <wodensday> Motion passed. [8:31:53 PM] <wodensday> With that being settled, we have half a meeting left. Is there anything anyone would like to bring up? [8:33:03 PM] <pmchi> I’m putting myself on a timer and giving myself a deadline. I’ll send to you how it looks throughout the week wodensday but I will be submitting the first draft of the pamphlet next week [8:33:34 PM] <wodensday> Excellent, I look forward to seeing it! [8:34:20 PM] <yariValtean> I regret that I must leave soon, actually. Pmchi I was going to ask about the pamphlet, deadlines can help. :) [8:34:57 PM] <yariValtean> Pmchi do you know what your next immediate step is for the pamphlet? [8:35:08 PM] <wodensday> Noted. [8:36:35 PM] <pmchi> A couple things, still mostly just formatting and filling in some gaps right now [8:36:40 PM] <yariValtean> Only other thing I have to bring up is that twitter is now connected - so both of you are on there, I would recommend that you make sure you are set to only post to USPirates after confirmation, and perhaps we could set some sort of posting schedule? [8:37:58 PM] <wodensday> A posting schedule is a good idea. or, might I suggest a certain amount of tweets per week. Something like that [8:37:59 PM] <pmchi> Maybe schedule tweets for 90 minutes ahead? If nothing is addressed in that time, tweet posts [8:38:21 PM] <wodensday> Tweets don't need to be perfectly timed, just regularly pushed [8:39:19 PM] <yariValtean> Agreed with all. [8:39:52 PM] <yariValtean> by "after confirmation" I literally mean there is a setting on tweetdeck [8:40:20 PM] <yariValtean> "Add a confirmation step before tweeting as @USPirates" [8:40:53 PM] <yariValtean> I suggest turning this on so that you don't accidentally tweet to pirates when you meant to tweet to personal account [8:40:56 PM] <wodensday> I can check that right now [8:41:00 PM] <pmchi> Just turned it on lol thank you for the clarification [8:41:08 PM] <pmchi> Side note, a gentleman from WV emailed us. I reached out and invited him to tonight’s meeting, wanted to see if he’s in attendance? [8:41:44 PM] <wodensday> Is that you, Ceiling? [8:41:54 PM] <yariValtean> Other than ceiling, who I have actually seen here on occasion, I think everyone here is the normal lurkers [8:42:48 PM] <wodensday> Confirmation step on by the way, thank you Yari [8:44:27 PM] <wodensday> Don't wanna reblog tweets from members of wonderful B-list pop rock band Franz Ferdinand on official pirate media [8:45:08 PM] <yariValtean> Anyway I need to go - I would suggest that next meeting we discuss posting schedule for twitter more in depth, whether posting happens by then or not. [8:45:09 PM] <yariValtean> Also for the proposal that was accepted, I'll make sure all the stuff on Discord is connected ASAP (in the next two days), and I'll start looking into website setup. If someone could try submitting an article, that would be great. [8:45:45 PM] <wodensday> Noted, noted, and noted. Thank you so much! [8:46:00 PM] <yariValtean> Great, leaving now - byeee [8:46:05 PM] ← yariValtean has left (Quit: Leaving) [8:46:07 PM] <pmchi> Have a good night! [8:48:05 PM] <wodensday> On that note, pmchi, anything you want to take these ten minutes to discuss? [8:49:03 PM] <wodensday> Sorry if I haven't been incredibly on it this meeting, you are one of five conversations I am currently having lol [8:49:27 PM] <pmchi> No, nothing significant. Needed to talk about the pamphlet and the West Virginia Pirate, meaning I’ve covered everything I needed to [8:49:50 PM] <wodensday> Good, good [8:49:59 PM] <wodensday> Hopefully we can keep that West Virginia pirate around [8:55:12 PM] <wodensday> Pmchi, Do I have your permission to adjourn? I don't want to close off like some kind of undemocratic tyrant [8:55:42 PM] <pmchi> Of course! I’m certainly not opposed [8:55:48 PM] <pmchi> I could use a nap lol [8:55:56 PM] <wodensday> Sounds good lol [8:56:04 PM] <wodensday> Go take yourself a well deserved rest [8:56:27 PM] <wodensday> This meeting has been adjourned at 9:56 PM eastern time.