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== Attending ==
 
== Attending ==
  
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* Bosun: Joseph Klein, USPP chair
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* Sayyida: Megan Klein vice chair
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* jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Secretary, Massachusetts
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* Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Massachusetts
  
 
=== Non-Voting ===
 
=== Non-Voting ===
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== Summary ==
 
== Summary ==
  
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* Bosun will review configuration of lists
 +
* jokeefe will invite current SAB members to new list
 +
* Sayyida working on the “rules fo discord“. Will send to SAB list
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* jokeefe and Joe will review connecting Zazzle account with bank account
  
 
==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
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[9:13pm] jokeefe: aye
 
[9:13pm] jokeefe: aye
 
[9:13pm] Sayyida: So many people get their cars stolen and they are on the hook for everything in the end
 
[9:13pm] Sayyida: So many people get their cars stolen and they are on the hook for everything in the end
 +
[9:14pm] Sayyida: If i want to destroy my car because i thought a diy fix would do it, its my damn fault
 +
[9:14pm] Bosun: Last week was a national political hell.
 +
[9:14pm] Sayyida: i still hate Microsoft for their removal of command line stuff and the annoying overhead with their software
 +
[9:14pm] Sayyida: OH JESUS
 +
[9:14pm] Sayyida: PPI was even wondering what is going on
 +
[9:14pm] jokeefe: I still live in the command line
 +
[9:15pm] Sayyida: I don’t use it as much, but i like the ability to use it if i want or need.
 +
[9:15pm] Bosun: Don't BASH the command line?
 +
[9:15pm] jokeefe: agreed
 +
[9:15pm] Sayyida: I HATE middle man crap. Bosun can tell you all about that
 +
[9:15pm] Sayyida: sudo it all!
 +
[9:16pm] Sayyida: so this week in “political dumpster fire” we are now questioning if the president actually has covid
 +
[9:17pm] jokeefe: Bosun, are the lists configured as you wish?
 +
[9:17pm] Sayyida: ppi is citing conspiracy theories and so are my freinds
 +
[9:17pm] Sayyida: has anyone ever tried lying or managing a group of 10 or more people with a lie?
 +
[9:17pm] Bosun: I need to go look.
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[9:17pm] jokeefe: what conspiracy theories?
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[9:17pm] Sayyida: do you guys have any idea how hard that is???
 +
[9:18pm] Sayyida: between “he doesn’t have it and is using it as an excuse”
 +
[9:18pm] jokeefe: Thanks, Bosun.
 +
[9:18pm] Sayyida: to “its some evil master plan to become god/king post election”
 +
[9:19pm] Sayyida: or “he wont give power willingly so are we going to have a civil war”
 +
[9:19pm] jokeefe: I think he really is sick
 +
[9:19pm] Sayyida: legally speaking this is what will happen. Nancy Pelosi will assume presidency, and he will be likely forcefully removed via Secret service or high military
 +
[9:19pm] Bosun: He may be dragged out kicking and tweeting.
 +
[9:20pm] Sayyida: I think he’s sick
 +
[9:20pm] Sayyida: i think he’s been sick for a while and knew
 +
[9:20pm] Sayyida: i think he’s a week already in the diagnosis before he said he was positive
 +
[9:20pm] Bosun: He wanted to give it to Biden.
 +
[9:20pm] Sayyida: yea he’s probably going to say “he found the cure and saved the planet” but he had something that no one can pay for
 +
[9:21pm] Sayyida: and he’s an asshole for that
 +
[9:21pm] jokeefe: he is that
 +
[9:21pm] Sayyida: he put so many people at risk and if he knew, he should be charged with attempted homicide or even murder
 +
[9:21pm] Bosun: Pretty good health care for 750/year
 +
[9:21pm] jokeefe: lol
 +
[9:21pm] Sayyida: you cant have sex with people if you are hiv + because of that
 +
[9:22pm] Sayyida: sure as hell you should not be allowed to get away with that kind of risk with this illness
 +
[9:22pm] Bosun: Do we have any business that needs to be conducted?
 +
[9:22pm] Sayyida: he could of killed so many people, given the fact they have the best medical our country can offer, its still shit
 +
[9:22pm] jokeefe: when is the next outreach meeting?
 +
[9:23pm] Sayyida: we need to make a list of demands to change once Biden is elected
 +
[9:23pm] Bosun: @jokeefe - I will e-mail you if I have any issues on the lists.
 +
[9:23pm] jokeefe: thank you
 +
[9:23pm] Sayyida: or if trump is, we need to fight it PUBICLY
 +
[9:23pm] Sayyida: Keith with PPI has some sway with the appointment of the new justice and he’s doing what he can there
 +
[9:24pm] Sayyida: i don’t remember what he has but it was mentioned in passing at the pirate beer on Saturday with PPI
 +
[9:24pm] jokeefe: @Sayyida: coming up with our platform is key
 +
[9:25pm] Sayyida: I don’t know how to “write a platform” but I will be more than happy to write up a list of demands or something that we are fighting for
 +
[9:25pm] Sayyida: I still need to send my “rules fo discord “ to the email list, I am sorry for failing on that front
 +
[9:25pm] Bosun: I think we need to push reform like state by state IRV for the presidential election or popular vote, which some states support but is properly done with an ammendment.
 +
[9:26pm] jokeefe: Take a section from another PP platform and review it each week.
 +
[9:26pm] Bosun: We need reforms that the 2 party system may not like.
 +
[9:27pm] jokeefe: that is true
 +
[9:27pm] Sayyida: I want the reforms to be non 2 party based
 +
[9:27pm] jokeefe: agreed
 +
[9:28pm] Bosun: The binary choice just pushes the nation into two armed camps.
 +
[9:28pm] Sayyida: clearly the better of two rapists isn’t a good way to run things
 +
[9:28pm] Sayyida: it only pushes wedge politics
 +
[9:28pm] Sayyida: i mean the pope even chewed out American Catholics for “allowing evil in for the sake of one issue”
 +
[9:29pm] jokeefe: heard that
 +
[9:29pm] Sayyida: the pope of all people wont even see anyone in the American political world because of it
 +
[9:29pm] Bosun: - this close to an election
 +
[9:29pm] Joe: one thing to add.
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[9:30pm] Bosun: Go ahead Joe.
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[9:30pm] Joe: Jokeefe is officially deputized for the treasury.
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[9:30pm] Bosun: OK - great.
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[9:30pm] Joe: so if anything happens to me there will be a smooth transition.
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[9:31pm] Sayyida: ah cool
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[9:31pm] jokeefe: Stay safe
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[9:31pm] Sayyida: thank jokeefe
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[9:31pm] Joe: also, move to add bank info for shirt site
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[9:31pm] Sayyida: out of curiosity why aren’t we doing it like PPI?
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[9:32pm] Sayyida: I think it’s PPI as a whole, but it could just be a specific country
 +
[9:32pm] jokeefe: not sure what you mean?
 +
[9:32pm] Sayyida: they do sales off amazon. They have a contract with someone that prints them as they need in the local area
 +
[9:32pm] Sayyida: it minimizes shipping and creation
 +
[9:33pm] Sayyida: so you dont have a bunch of shirts and stuff sitting in the closet or something
 +
[9:33pm] Sayyida: *stares at Bosun*
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[9:33pm] Bosun: Like we do.
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[9:33pm] jokeefe: zazzle would handle all of that
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[9:34pm] Sayyida: *nods* cool i had no idea how zazzle worked outside of “we couldn’t get in for a few years and lost our money”
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[9:34pm] Joe: Jokeefe, I still need to connect with you on that front.
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[9:34pm] jokeefe: sounds good
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[9:34pm] Joe: Not that I have been very available.
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[9:34pm] Sayyida: we’re 4 min past time
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[9:35pm] Joe: that's all I had.
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[9:35pm] Bosun: Then propose adjourn
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[9:35pm] Sayyida: Joe: you have a very busy schedule its ok
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[9:35pm] Sayyida: I second
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[9:35pm] Bosun: any objections?
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[9:35pm] Joe: nay
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[9:35pm] jokeefe: none
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[9:36pm] Sayyida: zilch
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[9:36pm] Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Massachusetts
  
  

Latest revision as of 20:39, 4 October 2020

Agenda

Reports

IT

  • Inviting people to new SAB and outreach committee lists

Outreach

Other

Decision

Attending

  • Bosun: Joseph Klein, USPP chair
  • Sayyida: Megan Klein vice chair
  • jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Secretary, Massachusetts
  • Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Massachusetts

Non-Voting

Summary

  • Bosun will review configuration of lists
  • jokeefe will invite current SAB members to new list
  • Sayyida working on the “rules fo discord“. Will send to SAB list
  • jokeefe and Joe will review connecting Zazzle account with bank account

Minutes

Record of the meeting 

 


[9:02pm] Bosun: Joseph Klein, USPP chair
[9:02pm] Sayyida: So its 2 min after the hour
[9:02pm] Sayyida: shall we start?
[9:02pm] Bosun: let's ID
[9:02pm] Sayyida: Megan Klein vice chair
[9:02pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Secretary, Massachusetts
[9:02pm] Bosun: Cool -
[9:02pm] jokeefe: Meeting page: https://wiki.pirate-party.us/PNC_10/4/20
[9:03pm] papegaai: Title: PNC 10/4/20 - United States Pirate Party (at wiki.pirate-party.us)
[9:03pm] Bosun: Yari can't make it.
[9:03pm] Sayyida: Yep. Ze has work tonight :-)
[9:03pm] Bosun: Dis MA perform a resolution supporting ranked voting?
[9:04pm] Bosun: did??
[9:04pm] jokeefe: Yes: https://masspirates.org/blog/2020/10/01/yes-on-questions-1-2/
[9:04pm] papegaai: Title: Yes on Questions 1 & 2 – Massachusetts Pirate Party (at masspirates.org)
[9:04pm] Bosun: MA is voting on such, yes?
[9:05pm] Bosun: May we follow suite and endorse as well?
[9:05pm] jokeefe: Yes, right to repair is question 1, RCV/IRV is question 2
[9:05pm] jokeefe: Of course!
[9:05pm] Bosun: Propose and we will vote.
[9:06pm] Bosun: Move to support MA TCV/IRV passage.
[9:06pm] jokeefe: 2nd
[9:07pm] Bosun: All in favor?
[9:07pm] jokeefe: aye
[9:07pm] Sayyida: aye
[9:07pm] Bosun: Good.
[9:08pm] jokeefe: Should I post what we posted or ask olivia?
[9:08pm] Bosun: As you think best. The outreach committee messed up two meetings in a row.
[9:09pm] Sayyida: right to repair is a big thing for me personally. Apple can suck well an apple haha
[9:09pm] Joe joined the chat room.
[9:09pm] Joe: sorry for late, work issues
[9:09pm] Sayyida: ahoy Joe!
[9:09pm] jokeefe: unfortunately, it is only for cars, but it requires that manufacturers setup a standardized open data platform for such data, provide access to this data to the owner and any independent repair facility the owner authorizes
[9:10pm] Bosun: We will regroup and post notes next meeting.
[9:10pm] Sayyida: still, do you or do you not own the car?
[9:10pm] Joe: Ahoy Sayyida!
[9:10pm] jokeefe: so that would be a step forward
[9:10pm] Sayyida: i swear some people don’t want to own anything, they just wanna lease it
[9:12pm] Bosun: Why have objects in chattel when you can lease them, lease a cat, lease a dog, a wife, some kids.
[9:12pm] jokeefe: either way you could get locked out of your car if you don’t pay for it
[9:12pm] Sayyida: jokeefe: which is insane.
[9:13pm] Bosun: IP makes us slaves to the IP owner's class.
[9:13pm] jokeefe: aye
[9:13pm] Sayyida: So many people get their cars stolen and they are on the hook for everything in the end
[9:14pm] Sayyida: If i want to destroy my car because i thought a diy fix would do it, its my damn fault
[9:14pm] Bosun: Last week was a national political hell.
[9:14pm] Sayyida: i still hate Microsoft for their removal of command line stuff and the annoying overhead with their software
[9:14pm] Sayyida: OH JESUS
[9:14pm] Sayyida: PPI was even wondering what is going on
[9:14pm] jokeefe: I still live in the command line
[9:15pm] Sayyida: I don’t use it as much, but i like the ability to use it if i want or need.
[9:15pm] Bosun: Don't BASH the command line?
[9:15pm] jokeefe: agreed
[9:15pm] Sayyida: I HATE middle man crap. Bosun can tell you all about that
[9:15pm] Sayyida: sudo it all!
[9:16pm] Sayyida: so this week in “political dumpster fire” we are now questioning if the president actually has covid
[9:17pm] jokeefe: Bosun, are the lists configured as you wish?
[9:17pm] Sayyida: ppi is citing conspiracy theories and so are my freinds
[9:17pm] Sayyida: has anyone ever tried lying or managing a group of 10 or more people with a lie?
[9:17pm] Bosun: I need to go look.
[9:17pm] jokeefe: what conspiracy theories?
[9:17pm] Sayyida: do you guys have any idea how hard that is???
[9:18pm] Sayyida: between “he doesn’t have it and is using it as an excuse”
[9:18pm] jokeefe: Thanks, Bosun.
[9:18pm] Sayyida: to “its some evil master plan to become god/king post election”
[9:19pm] Sayyida: or “he wont give power willingly so are we going to have a civil war”
[9:19pm] jokeefe: I think he really is sick
[9:19pm] Sayyida: legally speaking this is what will happen. Nancy Pelosi will assume presidency, and he will be likely forcefully removed via Secret service or high military
[9:19pm] Bosun: He may be dragged out kicking and tweeting.
[9:20pm] Sayyida: I think he’s sick
[9:20pm] Sayyida: i think he’s been sick for a while and knew
[9:20pm] Sayyida: i think he’s a week already in the diagnosis before he said he was positive
[9:20pm] Bosun: He wanted to give it to Biden.
[9:20pm] Sayyida: yea he’s probably going to say “he found the cure and saved the planet” but he had something that no one can pay for
[9:21pm] Sayyida: and he’s an asshole for that
[9:21pm] jokeefe: he is that
[9:21pm] Sayyida: he put so many people at risk and if he knew, he should be charged with attempted homicide or even murder
[9:21pm] Bosun: Pretty good health care for 750/year
[9:21pm] jokeefe: lol
[9:21pm] Sayyida: you cant have sex with people if you are hiv + because of that
[9:22pm] Sayyida: sure as hell you should not be allowed to get away with that kind of risk with this illness
[9:22pm] Bosun: Do we have any business that needs to be conducted?
[9:22pm] Sayyida: he could of killed so many people, given the fact they have the best medical our country can offer, its still shit
[9:22pm] jokeefe: when is the next outreach meeting?
[9:23pm] Sayyida: we need to make a list of demands to change once Biden is elected
[9:23pm] Bosun: @jokeefe - I will e-mail you if I have any issues on the lists.
[9:23pm] jokeefe: thank you
[9:23pm] Sayyida: or if trump is, we need to fight it PUBICLY
[9:23pm] Sayyida: Keith with PPI has some sway with the appointment of the new justice and he’s doing what he can there
[9:24pm] Sayyida: i don’t remember what he has but it was mentioned in passing at the pirate beer on Saturday with PPI
[9:24pm] jokeefe: @Sayyida: coming up with our platform is key
[9:25pm] Sayyida: I don’t know how to “write a platform” but I will be more than happy to write up a list of demands or something that we are fighting for
[9:25pm] Sayyida: I still need to send my “rules fo discord “ to the email list, I am sorry for failing on that front
[9:25pm] Bosun: I think we need to push reform like state by state IRV for the presidential election or popular vote, which some states support but is properly done with an ammendment.
[9:26pm] jokeefe: Take a section from another PP platform and review it each week.
[9:26pm] Bosun: We need reforms that the 2 party system may not like.
[9:27pm] jokeefe: that is true
[9:27pm] Sayyida: I want the reforms to be non 2 party based
[9:27pm] jokeefe: agreed
[9:28pm] Bosun: The binary choice just pushes the nation into two armed camps.
[9:28pm] Sayyida: clearly the better of two rapists isn’t a good way to run things
[9:28pm] Sayyida: it only pushes wedge politics
[9:28pm] Sayyida: i mean the pope even chewed out American Catholics for “allowing evil in for the sake of one issue”
[9:29pm] jokeefe: heard that
[9:29pm] Sayyida: the pope of all people wont even see anyone in the American political world because of it
[9:29pm] Bosun: - this close to an election
[9:29pm] Joe: one thing to add.
[9:30pm] Bosun: Go ahead Joe.
[9:30pm] Joe: Jokeefe is officially deputized for the treasury.
[9:30pm] Bosun: OK - great.
[9:30pm] Joe: so if anything happens to me there will be a smooth transition.
[9:31pm] Sayyida: ah cool
[9:31pm] jokeefe: Stay safe
[9:31pm] Sayyida: thank jokeefe
[9:31pm] Joe: also, move to add bank info for shirt site
[9:31pm] Sayyida: out of curiosity why aren’t we doing it like PPI?
[9:32pm] Sayyida: I think it’s PPI as a whole, but it could just be a specific country
[9:32pm] jokeefe: not sure what you mean?
[9:32pm] Sayyida: they do sales off amazon. They have a contract with someone that prints them as they need in the local area
[9:32pm] Sayyida: it minimizes shipping and creation
[9:33pm] Sayyida: so you dont have a bunch of shirts and stuff sitting in the closet or something
[9:33pm] Sayyida: *stares at Bosun*
[9:33pm] Bosun: Like we do.
[9:33pm] jokeefe: zazzle would handle all of that
[9:34pm] Sayyida: *nods* cool i had no idea how zazzle worked outside of “we couldn’t get in for a few years and lost our money”
[9:34pm] Joe: Jokeefe, I still need to connect with you on that front.
[9:34pm] jokeefe: sounds good
[9:34pm] Joe: Not that I have been very available.
[9:34pm] Sayyida: we’re 4 min past time
[9:35pm] Joe: that's all I had.
[9:35pm] Bosun: Then propose adjourn
[9:35pm] Sayyida: Joe: you have a very busy schedule its ok
[9:35pm] Sayyida: I second
[9:35pm] Bosun: any objections?
[9:35pm] Joe: nay
[9:35pm] jokeefe: none
[9:36pm] Sayyida: zilch
[9:36pm] Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Massachusetts
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