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== Agenda ==
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Please send me suggested agenda items as well as any URLs to articles on COVID-19 authoritarian power grabs. --bosun@wipp.coop
 
Please send me suggested agenda items as well as any URLs to articles on COVID-19 authoritarian power grabs. --bosun@wipp.coop
  
Review https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate
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=== Reports ===
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==== IT ====
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* jokeefe setup a [https://www.loomio.org/g/5PCvY9Ep/united-state-pirate-party Loomio Instance]
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* Silas has this [https://pad.riseup.net/p/vQb9vcxDQb6F0xra0M4c IT Todo List]
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=== Decision ===
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==== Candidate Selection Process ====
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* [https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate Draft Process]
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== Attending ==
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=== Non-Voting ===
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== Summary ==
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* [https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate Candidate Selection Process] - approved
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* discussion of Pirate policy for dealing the pandemic
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** test everyone, everyone wears masks, ubi until febuary 2021 at least, and OH YEA no cost for testing period
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** rent freezes and loan freezes
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** Break up proprietary test kits. Mandate standardization. Break IP restrictions when they interfere with public health.
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** right of repair for all medical equipment
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** Break up concentration in the food system - https://pluralistic.net/2020/04/29/banjo-nazis/#butchery
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** no contract tracing apps - https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/half-of-americans-wont-trust-contact-tracing-apps-new-poll-finds/
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** Everyone issued a mask has better return on investment.
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** forcing people to work in unsafe conditions using the defense production mandate is criminal.
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==Minutes==
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'''Record of the meeting'''
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  <nowiki>
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[10:03pm] jokeefe: PirateJoe won’t be able to attend tonight
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[10:03pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts active rep and USPP secretary
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[10:03pm] Bosun: OK, shall we discuss the draft?
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[10:04pm] Bosun: Joe Klein, USPP Chair, Wisconsin
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[10:04pm] Sayyida: Megan klein vice chair
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[10:04pm] jokeefe: Candidate Selection Process - https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate
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[10:04pm] papegaai: Title: Riseup Pad (at pad.riseup.net)
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[10:06pm] jokeefe: comments?
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[10:06pm] Bosun: I think it is good to go - can we throw it up as cannon?
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[10:08pm] Sayyida: through
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[10:08pm] jokeefe: I haven’t received any additional feedback. posting it is fine with me
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[10:09pm] Bosun: Mitch from Illinois will file after this election cycle is over as soon as he can for 2022. IL 3rd CD
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[10:09pm] Sayyida: it seems clear and good for me
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[10:09pm] Sayyida: it seems clear and good for me
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[10:09pm] Sayyida: he seems like a decent fellow
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[10:10pm] Bosun: He will work with us to make PPIL
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[10:10pm] jokeefe: Glad you got a chance to talk with him
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[10:11pm] jokeefe: approved, then?
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[10:11pm] Bosun: I don't know if we scared our CA contact - my daughter is contacting her. My daughter is going to grad school in CA.
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[10:11pm] Bosun: Yes, without objection approve.
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[10:13pm] Bosun: This Pandemic is showing how corrupt our government is.
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[10:13pm] jokeefe: That is true
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[10:14pm] Bosun: More dead than Vietnam,
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[10:15pm] Bosun: It is very tragic.
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[10:16pm] Sayyida: im in process of losing a family member over it
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[10:16pm] Sayyida: thats a loose way of saying it, but its my step grandma
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[10:16pm] Sayyida: shes 96 and has dementia
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[10:17pm] DammitViktyr: I am currently considered *extremely* high risk despite my age.
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[10:17pm] jokeefe: so sorry
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[10:17pm] Sayyida: I think I already had it but I wasn't "worth the cost of the test" as the ER doc said early march
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[10:18pm] Sayyida: and if I had it, so did everyone else in this house so thats both good and bad
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[10:18pm] Bosun: Regarding the IT list - crew has automatic daily backups of the db.
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[10:19pm] Bosun: One I un-fu a complete upgrade I'll drop it in.
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[10:19pm] jokeefe: oh great.
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[10:19pm] Bosun: Off site backup.
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[10:19pm] jokeefe: thanks
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[10:20pm] Bosun: Once ...
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[10:20pm] Sayyida: 10 min left gentelmen
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[10:21pm] Bosun: I will put out something to SAB about steps forward.
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[10:22pm] jokeefe: What should the pirate solution to the pandemic be?
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[10:23pm] Sayyida: test everyone, everyone wears masks, ubi until febuary 2021 at least, and OH YEA no cost for testing period
 +
[10:23pm] Sayyida: rent freezes and loan freezes
 +
[10:23pm] Sayyida: those are my suggestions.
 +
[10:23pm] Bosun: Break up proprietary test kits. Mandate standardization. Break IP restrictions when they interfere with public health.
 +
[10:24pm] Sayyida: ooo those are nice too!
 +
[10:25pm] jokeefe: right of repair for all medical equipment
 +
[10:25pm] Sayyida: YESA
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[10:25pm] jokeefe: https://pluralistic.net/2020/04/29/banjo-nazis/#butchery
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[10:25pm] Bosun: ... and be very careful of authoritarians using it as a means of controlling people.
 +
[10:25pm] jokeefe: no contract tracing apps
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[10:26pm] Sayyida: I saw they are implimenting them in other areas
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[10:26pm] Sayyida: ITS MIND NUMBING
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[10:26pm] jokeefe: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/half-of-americans-wont-trust-contact-tracing-apps-new-poll-finds/
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[10:26pm] papegaai: Title: Half of Americans won’t trust contact-tracing apps, new poll finds | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
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[10:26pm] Bosun: Everyone issued a mask has better return on investment.
 +
[10:27pm] DammitViktyr: Only half?
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[10:28pm] Sayyida: im suprised that so many even oppose it
 +
[10:28pm] Bosun: Also --- forcing people to work in unsafe conditions using the defense production mandate is criminal.
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[10:28pm] Sayyida: YES
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[10:28pm] jokeefe: The other half didn’t understand the question
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[10:29pm] Sayyida: jokeefe, yea more of how far could it go
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[10:29pm] Sayyida: we have  min left
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[10:29pm] Sayyida: are we going to continue?
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[10:30pm] Bosun: Iowa and Texas will cut off aide to anyone who refuses to go back to work. The meat packing plants are killing workers. Life means nothing?
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[10:30pm] jokeefe: that is a start
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[10:31pm] Bosun: We should adjourn
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[10:31pm] jokeefe: The list is a start. Texas is awful
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[10:31pm] jokeefe: #DeathCult
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[10:32pm] Bosun: GA also.
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[10:32pm] jokeefe: and many more
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[10:32pm] jokeefe: I am fine adjourning. I will post notes
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[10:32pm] Sayyida: same
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[10:32pm] Bosun: Thank you so much.
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[10:32pm] Sayyida: see you all later!
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  </nowiki>

Latest revision as of 21:37, 29 April 2020

Agenda

Please send me suggested agenda items as well as any URLs to articles on COVID-19 authoritarian power grabs. --bosun@wipp.coop

Reports

IT

Decision

Candidate Selection Process

Attending

Non-Voting

Summary

Minutes

Record of the meeting

 


[10:03pm] jokeefe: PirateJoe won’t be able to attend tonight
[10:03pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts active rep and USPP secretary
[10:03pm] Bosun: OK, shall we discuss the draft?
[10:04pm] Bosun: Joe Klein, USPP Chair, Wisconsin
[10:04pm] Sayyida: Megan klein vice chair
[10:04pm] jokeefe: Candidate Selection Process - https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate
[10:04pm] papegaai: Title: Riseup Pad (at pad.riseup.net)
[10:06pm] jokeefe: comments?
[10:06pm] Bosun: I think it is good to go - can we throw it up as cannon?
[10:08pm] Sayyida: through
[10:08pm] jokeefe: I haven’t received any additional feedback. posting it is fine with me
[10:09pm] Bosun: Mitch from Illinois will file after this election cycle is over as soon as he can for 2022. IL 3rd CD
[10:09pm] Sayyida: it seems clear and good for me
[10:09pm] Sayyida: it seems clear and good for me
[10:09pm] Sayyida: he seems like a decent fellow
[10:10pm] Bosun: He will work with us to make PPIL
[10:10pm] jokeefe: Glad you got a chance to talk with him
[10:11pm] jokeefe: approved, then?
[10:11pm] Bosun: I don't know if we scared our CA contact - my daughter is contacting her. My daughter is going to grad school in CA.
[10:11pm] Bosun: Yes, without objection approve.
[10:13pm] Bosun: This Pandemic is showing how corrupt our government is.
[10:13pm] jokeefe: That is true
[10:14pm] Bosun: More dead than Vietnam,
[10:15pm] Bosun: It is very tragic.
[10:16pm] Sayyida: im in process of losing a family member over it
[10:16pm] Sayyida: thats a loose way of saying it, but its my step grandma
[10:16pm] Sayyida: shes 96 and has dementia
[10:17pm] DammitViktyr: I am currently considered *extremely* high risk despite my age.
[10:17pm] jokeefe: so sorry
[10:17pm] Sayyida: I think I already had it but I wasn't "worth the cost of the test" as the ER doc said early march
[10:18pm] Sayyida: and if I had it, so did everyone else in this house so thats both good and bad
[10:18pm] Bosun: Regarding the IT list - crew has automatic daily backups of the db.
[10:19pm] Bosun: One I un-fu a complete upgrade I'll drop it in.
[10:19pm] jokeefe: oh great.
[10:19pm] Bosun: Off site backup.
[10:19pm] jokeefe: thanks
[10:20pm] Bosun: Once ...
[10:20pm] Sayyida: 10 min left gentelmen
[10:21pm] Bosun: I will put out something to SAB about steps forward.
[10:22pm] jokeefe: What should the pirate solution to the pandemic be?
[10:23pm] Sayyida: test everyone, everyone wears masks, ubi until febuary 2021 at least, and OH YEA no cost for testing period
[10:23pm] Sayyida: rent freezes and loan freezes
[10:23pm] Sayyida: those are my suggestions.
[10:23pm] Bosun: Break up proprietary test kits. Mandate standardization. Break IP restrictions when they interfere with public health.
[10:24pm] Sayyida: ooo those are nice too!
[10:25pm] jokeefe: right of repair for all medical equipment
[10:25pm] Sayyida: YESA
[10:25pm] jokeefe: https://pluralistic.net/2020/04/29/banjo-nazis/#butchery
[10:25pm] Bosun: ... and be very careful of authoritarians using it as a means of controlling people.
[10:25pm] jokeefe: no contract tracing apps
[10:26pm] Sayyida: I saw they are implimenting them in other areas
[10:26pm] Sayyida: ITS MIND NUMBING
[10:26pm] jokeefe: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/half-of-americans-wont-trust-contact-tracing-apps-new-poll-finds/
[10:26pm] papegaai: Title: Half of Americans won’t trust contact-tracing apps, new poll finds | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
[10:26pm] Bosun: Everyone issued a mask has better return on investment.
[10:27pm] DammitViktyr: Only half?
[10:28pm] Sayyida: im suprised that so many even oppose it
[10:28pm] Bosun: Also --- forcing people to work in unsafe conditions using the defense production mandate is criminal.
[10:28pm] Sayyida: YES
[10:28pm] jokeefe: The other half didn’t understand the question
[10:29pm] Sayyida: jokeefe, yea more of how far could it go
[10:29pm] Sayyida: we have  min left
[10:29pm] Sayyida: are we going to continue?
[10:30pm] Bosun: Iowa and Texas will cut off aide to anyone who refuses to go back to work. The meat packing plants are killing workers. Life means nothing?
[10:30pm] jokeefe: that is a start
[10:31pm] Bosun: We should adjourn
[10:31pm] jokeefe: The list is a start. Texas is awful
[10:31pm] jokeefe: #DeathCult
[10:32pm] Bosun: GA also.
[10:32pm] jokeefe: and many more
[10:32pm] jokeefe: I am fine adjourning. I will post notes
[10:32pm] Sayyida: same
[10:32pm] Bosun: Thank you so much.
[10:32pm] Sayyida: see you all later!