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=== Decision === | === Decision === | ||
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| + | Should we oppose the EARN IT Act? | ||
==== Candidate Selection Process ==== | ==== Candidate Selection Process ==== | ||
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== Attending == | == Attending == | ||
| + | * Bosun: Joseph Klein USPP Chair, Wisconsin | ||
| + | * Joe: Joseph Onoroski Treasurer, Massachusetts | ||
| + | * jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts, Secretary | ||
| + | * Sayyida: Megan Klein, vice chair | ||
=== Non-Voting === | === Non-Voting === | ||
== Summary == | == Summary == | ||
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| + | Agreed to oppose the EARN IT Act. Bosun and Sayyida will write up a statement. | ||
==Minutes== | ==Minutes== | ||
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| + | [9:59pm] Bosun: Let's get started. Please identify for the minutes. | ||
| + | [10:00pm] Bosun: Joseph Klein USPP Chair, Wisconsin | ||
| + | [10:00pm] Joe: Joseph Onoroski Treasurer, Massachusetts | ||
| + | [10:00pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts, Secretary | ||
| + | [10:00pm] Sayyida: Megan Klein | ||
| + | [10:00pm] jokeefe: Notes/Agenda: https://wiki.pirate-party.us/PNC_4/15/20 | ||
| + | [10:00pm] papegaai: Title: PNC 4/15/20 - United States Pirate Party (at wiki.pirate-party.us) | ||
| + | [10:00pm] Sayyida: vice chair | ||
| + | [10:03pm] Bosun: Sayyida and I will mentor our future Illinois Pirate Congressman on running for office. | ||
| + | [10:03pm] Sayyida: yes. we have contact wiht Mitch | ||
| + | [10:03pm] Sayyida: with* | ||
| + | [10:03pm] Joe: Jamie and I can will continue to reach out to CN then. | ||
| + | [10:04pm] Bosun: CiviCRM really needs a complete overhaul. - my addition to the IT notes. I like what Liz did and want to see what I can carry over to a new version. | ||
| + | [10:04pm] Bosun: Please yes, invite them to IRC | ||
| + | [10:05pm] Joe: Will do | ||
| + | [10:06pm] jokeefe: MA updated our CiviCRM, if you want to talk with the person who did that I can ask him to contact you | ||
| + | [10:06pm] Bosun: The Congressional race is not until the next presidential midterm in 2022. | ||
| + | [10:07pm] Bosun: OK - yes please. | ||
| + | [10:07pm] jokeefe: will do Bosun | ||
| + | [10:07pm] Joe: jokeefe discovered a bill with some serious issues we should address. | ||
| + | [10:08pm] Joe: earn it act 2020 | ||
| + | [10:08pm] Sayyida left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | ||
| + | [10:08pm] Sayyida joined the chat room. | ||
| + | [10:08pm] Sayyida: what kind of serious issues? | ||
| + | [10:08pm] Bosun: Any feedback on the draft "how to get endorsed" that requires action? | ||
| + | [10:08pm] Joe: jokeefe? | ||
| + | [10:09pm] jokeefe: I haven’t heard anything | ||
| + | [10:10pm] jokeefe: how does it look? | ||
| + | [10:10pm] Joe: It grants the US government to go after companies for encryption in the name of stopping child abuse. Thing is it goes way to far. | ||
| + | [10:11pm] jokeefe: Here is techdirt’s summary: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200305/13510544043/senators-hawley-feinstein-join-graham-blumenthal-announcing-bill-to-undermine-both-encryption-section-230.shtml | ||
| + | [10:11pm] papegaai: Title: Senators Hawley & Feinstein Join Graham & Blumenthal In Announcing Bill To Undermine Both Encryption And Section 230 | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com) | ||
| + | [10:13pm] Sayyida left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | ||
| + | [10:13pm] Sayyida joined the chat room. | ||
| + | [10:14pm] Sayyida: kind of feel like this is a "patriot act" but instead of "terrorists" its "child abusers" | ||
| + | [10:14pm] Joe left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | ||
| + | [10:15pm] Joe joined the chat room. | ||
| + | [10:15pm] Bosun: Child abusers need to give law enforcement their keys so the can incriminate themselves? | ||
| + | [10:15pm] jokeefe: with a layer of government backdoors to encryption | ||
| + | [10:15pm] jokeefe: not just child abusers | ||
| + | [10:16pm] Sayyida: that seems to be the prime excuse for it | ||
| + | [10:16pm] Bosun: Generally banning encryption is stupid. | ||
| + | [10:16pm] jokeefe: agreed | ||
| + | [10:16pm] Sayyida: same here | ||
| + | [10:17pm] Bosun: The people I did radio with. Would then ask me if I was pro child abuse. | ||
| + | [10:17pm] jokeefe: No, but we are pro-privacy for everyone. | ||
| + | [10:18pm] Bosun: Yes, and we need to reiterate that. | ||
| + | [10:18pm] Joe: Agreed | ||
| + | [10:19pm] jokeefe: Like with FOSTA, this law will likely make it harder to go after child abusers | ||
| + | [10:19pm] Sayyida: 10 min left gentlemen | ||
| + | [10:20pm] jokeefe: Do we want to oppose the EARN IT act? | ||
| + | [10:20pm] Bosun: I think it is relatively simple, a virus emergency should not be cover for taking away citizen's rights/ | ||
| + | [10:21pm] Bosun: We want to appose restrictions on encryption. Back doors end up giving an entrance to Bothe white and black hats. | ||
| + | [10:23pm] Bosun: oppose. | ||
| + | [10:23pm] Joe left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | ||
| + | [10:23pm] jokeefe: oppose | ||
| + | [10:23pm] Joe joined the chat room. | ||
| + | [10:23pm] Sayyida: both* | ||
| + | [10:23pm] Bosun: Ok ... | ||
| + | [10:23pm] jokeefe: both? | ||
| + | [10:24pm] Bosun: Both black and white | ||
| + | [10:24pm] jokeefe: ok | ||
| + | [10:24pm] Bosun: My old melted mind can't spell . | ||
| + | [10:25pm] Sayyida: I think we've been inside too long | ||
| + | [10:25pm] jokeefe: Aye that | ||
| + | [10:25pm] jokeefe: Do any oppose opposing the EARN IT act? | ||
| + | [10:25pm] Sayyida: nay | ||
| + | [10:26pm] Joe: nay | ||
| + | [10:26pm] Bosun: A posting on the front page, with our stand. Let's avoid the double negatives though. | ||
| + | [10:26pm] Sayyida: however, do we all need to go back to English class? | ||
| + | [10:27pm] jokeefe: Who will write it? | ||
| + | [10:28pm] Sayyida: 2 minutes | ||
| + | [10:28pm] Bosun: Meg and I will work on a short blurb to post tomorrow. I will put out some text and she will fix it. | ||
| + | [10:29pm] Joe: Sounds great, that's all I currently have | ||
| + | [10:29pm] Sayyida: motion to adjourn | ||
| + | [10:29pm] Joe: 2nd | ||
| + | [10:29pm] Sayyida: all in favor? | ||
| + | [10:29pm] jokeefe: Shall we review https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate | ||
| + | [10:29pm] papegaai: Title: Riseup Pad (at pad.riseup.net) | ||
| + | [10:29pm] jokeefe: next week | ||
| + | [10:29pm] Bosun: Any objections | ||
| + | [10:29pm] jokeefe: ? | ||
| + | [10:29pm] Bosun: Yes. | ||
| + | [10:30pm] jokeefe: ok | ||
| + | [10:30pm] Bosun: First thing on the agenda. | ||
| + | [10:30pm] jokeefe: have a good night | ||
| + | [10:30pm] Sayyida left the chat room. (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/) | ||
| + | [10:31pm] Joe: gn | ||
| + | [10:31pm] jokeefe: I’ll post the notes | ||
| + | [10:31pm] Joe left the chat room. (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/) | ||
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Latest revision as of 21:37, 15 April 2020
Agenda
Continue discussion on getting more states to attend meetings.
Reports
IT
- jokeefe setup a Loomio Instance
- Silas has this IT Todo List
Decision
Should we oppose the EARN IT Act?
Candidate Selection Process
Attending
- Bosun: Joseph Klein USPP Chair, Wisconsin
- Joe: Joseph Onoroski Treasurer, Massachusetts
- jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts, Secretary
- Sayyida: Megan Klein, vice chair
Non-Voting
Summary
Agreed to oppose the EARN IT Act. Bosun and Sayyida will write up a statement.
Minutes
Record of the meeting
[9:59pm] Bosun: Let's get started. Please identify for the minutes. [10:00pm] Bosun: Joseph Klein USPP Chair, Wisconsin [10:00pm] Joe: Joseph Onoroski Treasurer, Massachusetts [10:00pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts, Secretary [10:00pm] Sayyida: Megan Klein [10:00pm] jokeefe: Notes/Agenda: https://wiki.pirate-party.us/PNC_4/15/20 [10:00pm] papegaai: Title: PNC 4/15/20 - United States Pirate Party (at wiki.pirate-party.us) [10:00pm] Sayyida: vice chair [10:03pm] Bosun: Sayyida and I will mentor our future Illinois Pirate Congressman on running for office. [10:03pm] Sayyida: yes. we have contact wiht Mitch [10:03pm] Sayyida: with* [10:03pm] Joe: Jamie and I can will continue to reach out to CN then. [10:04pm] Bosun: CiviCRM really needs a complete overhaul. - my addition to the IT notes. I like what Liz did and want to see what I can carry over to a new version. [10:04pm] Bosun: Please yes, invite them to IRC [10:05pm] Joe: Will do [10:06pm] jokeefe: MA updated our CiviCRM, if you want to talk with the person who did that I can ask him to contact you [10:06pm] Bosun: The Congressional race is not until the next presidential midterm in 2022. [10:07pm] Bosun: OK - yes please. [10:07pm] jokeefe: will do Bosun [10:07pm] Joe: jokeefe discovered a bill with some serious issues we should address. [10:08pm] Joe: earn it act 2020 [10:08pm] Sayyida left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:08pm] Sayyida joined the chat room. [10:08pm] Sayyida: what kind of serious issues? [10:08pm] Bosun: Any feedback on the draft "how to get endorsed" that requires action? [10:08pm] Joe: jokeefe? [10:09pm] jokeefe: I haven’t heard anything [10:10pm] jokeefe: how does it look? [10:10pm] Joe: It grants the US government to go after companies for encryption in the name of stopping child abuse. Thing is it goes way to far. [10:11pm] jokeefe: Here is techdirt’s summary: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200305/13510544043/senators-hawley-feinstein-join-graham-blumenthal-announcing-bill-to-undermine-both-encryption-section-230.shtml [10:11pm] papegaai: Title: Senators Hawley & Feinstein Join Graham & Blumenthal In Announcing Bill To Undermine Both Encryption And Section 230 | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com) [10:13pm] Sayyida left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:13pm] Sayyida joined the chat room. [10:14pm] Sayyida: kind of feel like this is a "patriot act" but instead of "terrorists" its "child abusers" [10:14pm] Joe left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:15pm] Joe joined the chat room. [10:15pm] Bosun: Child abusers need to give law enforcement their keys so the can incriminate themselves? [10:15pm] jokeefe: with a layer of government backdoors to encryption [10:15pm] jokeefe: not just child abusers [10:16pm] Sayyida: that seems to be the prime excuse for it [10:16pm] Bosun: Generally banning encryption is stupid. [10:16pm] jokeefe: agreed [10:16pm] Sayyida: same here [10:17pm] Bosun: The people I did radio with. Would then ask me if I was pro child abuse. [10:17pm] jokeefe: No, but we are pro-privacy for everyone. [10:18pm] Bosun: Yes, and we need to reiterate that. [10:18pm] Joe: Agreed [10:19pm] jokeefe: Like with FOSTA, this law will likely make it harder to go after child abusers [10:19pm] Sayyida: 10 min left gentlemen [10:20pm] jokeefe: Do we want to oppose the EARN IT act? [10:20pm] Bosun: I think it is relatively simple, a virus emergency should not be cover for taking away citizen's rights/ [10:21pm] Bosun: We want to appose restrictions on encryption. Back doors end up giving an entrance to Bothe white and black hats. [10:23pm] Bosun: oppose. [10:23pm] Joe left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:23pm] jokeefe: oppose [10:23pm] Joe joined the chat room. [10:23pm] Sayyida: both* [10:23pm] Bosun: Ok ... [10:23pm] jokeefe: both? [10:24pm] Bosun: Both black and white [10:24pm] jokeefe: ok [10:24pm] Bosun: My old melted mind can't spell . [10:25pm] Sayyida: I think we've been inside too long [10:25pm] jokeefe: Aye that [10:25pm] jokeefe: Do any oppose opposing the EARN IT act? [10:25pm] Sayyida: nay [10:26pm] Joe: nay [10:26pm] Bosun: A posting on the front page, with our stand. Let's avoid the double negatives though. [10:26pm] Sayyida: however, do we all need to go back to English class? [10:27pm] jokeefe: Who will write it? [10:28pm] Sayyida: 2 minutes [10:28pm] Bosun: Meg and I will work on a short blurb to post tomorrow. I will put out some text and she will fix it. [10:29pm] Joe: Sounds great, that's all I currently have [10:29pm] Sayyida: motion to adjourn [10:29pm] Joe: 2nd [10:29pm] Sayyida: all in favor? [10:29pm] jokeefe: Shall we review https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate [10:29pm] papegaai: Title: Riseup Pad (at pad.riseup.net) [10:29pm] jokeefe: next week [10:29pm] Bosun: Any objections [10:29pm] jokeefe: ? [10:29pm] Bosun: Yes. [10:30pm] jokeefe: ok [10:30pm] Bosun: First thing on the agenda. [10:30pm] jokeefe: have a good night [10:30pm] Sayyida left the chat room. (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/) [10:31pm] Joe: gn [10:31pm] jokeefe: I’ll post the notes [10:31pm] Joe left the chat room. (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/)