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== Summary == | == Summary == | ||
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| + | * [https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate Candidate Selection Process] - approved | ||
| + | * discussion of Pirate policy for dealing the pandemic | ||
| + | ** test everyone, everyone wears masks, ubi until febuary 2021 at least, and OH YEA no cost for testing period | ||
| + | ** rent freezes and loan freezes | ||
| + | ** Break up proprietary test kits. Mandate standardization. Break IP restrictions when they interfere with public health. | ||
| + | ** right of repair for all medical equipment | ||
| + | ** Break up concentration in the food system - https://pluralistic.net/2020/04/29/banjo-nazis/#butchery | ||
| + | ** no contract tracing apps - https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/half-of-americans-wont-trust-contact-tracing-apps-new-poll-finds/ | ||
| + | ** Everyone issued a mask has better return on investment. | ||
| + | ** forcing people to work in unsafe conditions using the defense production mandate is criminal. | ||
==Minutes== | ==Minutes== | ||
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| + | [10:03pm] jokeefe: PirateJoe won’t be able to attend tonight | ||
| + | [10:03pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts active rep and USPP secretary | ||
| + | [10:03pm] Bosun: OK, shall we discuss the draft? | ||
| + | [10:04pm] Bosun: Joe Klein, USPP Chair, Wisconsin | ||
| + | [10:04pm] Sayyida: Megan klein vice chair | ||
| + | [10:04pm] jokeefe: Candidate Selection Process - https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate | ||
| + | [10:04pm] papegaai: Title: Riseup Pad (at pad.riseup.net) | ||
| + | [10:06pm] jokeefe: comments? | ||
| + | [10:06pm] Bosun: I think it is good to go - can we throw it up as cannon? | ||
| + | [10:08pm] Sayyida: through | ||
| + | [10:08pm] jokeefe: I haven’t received any additional feedback. posting it is fine with me | ||
| + | [10:09pm] Bosun: Mitch from Illinois will file after this election cycle is over as soon as he can for 2022. IL 3rd CD | ||
| + | [10:09pm] Sayyida: it seems clear and good for me | ||
| + | [10:09pm] Sayyida: it seems clear and good for me | ||
| + | [10:09pm] Sayyida: he seems like a decent fellow | ||
| + | [10:10pm] Bosun: He will work with us to make PPIL | ||
| + | [10:10pm] jokeefe: Glad you got a chance to talk with him | ||
| + | [10:11pm] jokeefe: approved, then? | ||
| + | [10:11pm] Bosun: I don't know if we scared our CA contact - my daughter is contacting her. My daughter is going to grad school in CA. | ||
| + | [10:11pm] Bosun: Yes, without objection approve. | ||
| + | [10:13pm] Bosun: This Pandemic is showing how corrupt our government is. | ||
| + | [10:13pm] jokeefe: That is true | ||
| + | [10:14pm] Bosun: More dead than Vietnam, | ||
| + | [10:15pm] Bosun: It is very tragic. | ||
| + | [10:16pm] Sayyida: im in process of losing a family member over it | ||
| + | [10:16pm] Sayyida: thats a loose way of saying it, but its my step grandma | ||
| + | [10:16pm] Sayyida: shes 96 and has dementia | ||
| + | [10:17pm] DammitViktyr: I am currently considered *extremely* high risk despite my age. | ||
| + | [10:17pm] jokeefe: so sorry | ||
| + | [10:17pm] Sayyida: I think I already had it but I wasn't "worth the cost of the test" as the ER doc said early march | ||
| + | [10:18pm] Sayyida: and if I had it, so did everyone else in this house so thats both good and bad | ||
| + | [10:18pm] Bosun: Regarding the IT list - crew has automatic daily backups of the db. | ||
| + | [10:19pm] Bosun: One I un-fu a complete upgrade I'll drop it in. | ||
| + | [10:19pm] jokeefe: oh great. | ||
| + | [10:19pm] Bosun: Off site backup. | ||
| + | [10:19pm] jokeefe: thanks | ||
| + | [10:20pm] Bosun: Once ... | ||
| + | [10:20pm] Sayyida: 10 min left gentelmen | ||
| + | [10:21pm] Bosun: I will put out something to SAB about steps forward. | ||
| + | [10:22pm] jokeefe: What should the pirate solution to the pandemic be? | ||
| + | [10:23pm] Sayyida: test everyone, everyone wears masks, ubi until febuary 2021 at least, and OH YEA no cost for testing period | ||
| + | [10:23pm] Sayyida: rent freezes and loan freezes | ||
| + | [10:23pm] Sayyida: those are my suggestions. | ||
| + | [10:23pm] Bosun: Break up proprietary test kits. Mandate standardization. Break IP restrictions when they interfere with public health. | ||
| + | [10:24pm] Sayyida: ooo those are nice too! | ||
| + | [10:25pm] jokeefe: right of repair for all medical equipment | ||
| + | [10:25pm] Sayyida: YESA | ||
| + | [10:25pm] jokeefe: https://pluralistic.net/2020/04/29/banjo-nazis/#butchery | ||
| + | [10:25pm] Bosun: ... and be very careful of authoritarians using it as a means of controlling people. | ||
| + | [10:25pm] jokeefe: no contract tracing apps | ||
| + | [10:26pm] Sayyida: I saw they are implimenting them in other areas | ||
| + | [10:26pm] Sayyida: ITS MIND NUMBING | ||
| + | [10:26pm] jokeefe: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/half-of-americans-wont-trust-contact-tracing-apps-new-poll-finds/ | ||
| + | [10:26pm] papegaai: Title: Half of Americans won’t trust contact-tracing apps, new poll finds | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) | ||
| + | [10:26pm] Bosun: Everyone issued a mask has better return on investment. | ||
| + | [10:27pm] DammitViktyr: Only half? | ||
| + | [10:28pm] Sayyida: im suprised that so many even oppose it | ||
| + | [10:28pm] Bosun: Also --- forcing people to work in unsafe conditions using the defense production mandate is criminal. | ||
| + | [10:28pm] Sayyida: YES | ||
| + | [10:28pm] jokeefe: The other half didn’t understand the question | ||
| + | [10:29pm] Sayyida: jokeefe, yea more of how far could it go | ||
| + | [10:29pm] Sayyida: we have min left | ||
| + | [10:29pm] Sayyida: are we going to continue? | ||
| + | [10:30pm] Bosun: Iowa and Texas will cut off aide to anyone who refuses to go back to work. The meat packing plants are killing workers. Life means nothing? | ||
| + | [10:30pm] jokeefe: that is a start | ||
| + | [10:31pm] Bosun: We should adjourn | ||
| + | [10:31pm] jokeefe: The list is a start. Texas is awful | ||
| + | [10:31pm] jokeefe: #DeathCult | ||
| + | [10:32pm] Bosun: GA also. | ||
| + | [10:32pm] jokeefe: and many more | ||
| + | [10:32pm] jokeefe: I am fine adjourning. I will post notes | ||
| + | [10:32pm] Sayyida: same | ||
| + | [10:32pm] Bosun: Thank you so much. | ||
| + | [10:32pm] Sayyida: see you all later! | ||
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Latest revision as of 21:37, 29 April 2020
Agenda
Please send me suggested agenda items as well as any URLs to articles on COVID-19 authoritarian power grabs. --bosun@wipp.coop
Reports
IT
- jokeefe setup a Loomio Instance
- Silas has this IT Todo List
Decision
Candidate Selection Process
Attending
Non-Voting
Summary
- Candidate Selection Process - approved
- discussion of Pirate policy for dealing the pandemic
- test everyone, everyone wears masks, ubi until febuary 2021 at least, and OH YEA no cost for testing period
- rent freezes and loan freezes
- Break up proprietary test kits. Mandate standardization. Break IP restrictions when they interfere with public health.
- right of repair for all medical equipment
- Break up concentration in the food system - https://pluralistic.net/2020/04/29/banjo-nazis/#butchery
- no contract tracing apps - https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/half-of-americans-wont-trust-contact-tracing-apps-new-poll-finds/
- Everyone issued a mask has better return on investment.
- forcing people to work in unsafe conditions using the defense production mandate is criminal.
Minutes
Record of the meeting
[10:03pm] jokeefe: PirateJoe won’t be able to attend tonight [10:03pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Massachusetts active rep and USPP secretary [10:03pm] Bosun: OK, shall we discuss the draft? [10:04pm] Bosun: Joe Klein, USPP Chair, Wisconsin [10:04pm] Sayyida: Megan klein vice chair [10:04pm] jokeefe: Candidate Selection Process - https://pad.riseup.net/p/HowToGetSupportAsAPirateCandidate [10:04pm] papegaai: Title: Riseup Pad (at pad.riseup.net) [10:06pm] jokeefe: comments? [10:06pm] Bosun: I think it is good to go - can we throw it up as cannon? [10:08pm] Sayyida: through [10:08pm] jokeefe: I haven’t received any additional feedback. posting it is fine with me [10:09pm] Bosun: Mitch from Illinois will file after this election cycle is over as soon as he can for 2022. IL 3rd CD [10:09pm] Sayyida: it seems clear and good for me [10:09pm] Sayyida: it seems clear and good for me [10:09pm] Sayyida: he seems like a decent fellow [10:10pm] Bosun: He will work with us to make PPIL [10:10pm] jokeefe: Glad you got a chance to talk with him [10:11pm] jokeefe: approved, then? [10:11pm] Bosun: I don't know if we scared our CA contact - my daughter is contacting her. My daughter is going to grad school in CA. [10:11pm] Bosun: Yes, without objection approve. [10:13pm] Bosun: This Pandemic is showing how corrupt our government is. [10:13pm] jokeefe: That is true [10:14pm] Bosun: More dead than Vietnam, [10:15pm] Bosun: It is very tragic. [10:16pm] Sayyida: im in process of losing a family member over it [10:16pm] Sayyida: thats a loose way of saying it, but its my step grandma [10:16pm] Sayyida: shes 96 and has dementia [10:17pm] DammitViktyr: I am currently considered *extremely* high risk despite my age. [10:17pm] jokeefe: so sorry [10:17pm] Sayyida: I think I already had it but I wasn't "worth the cost of the test" as the ER doc said early march [10:18pm] Sayyida: and if I had it, so did everyone else in this house so thats both good and bad [10:18pm] Bosun: Regarding the IT list - crew has automatic daily backups of the db. [10:19pm] Bosun: One I un-fu a complete upgrade I'll drop it in. [10:19pm] jokeefe: oh great. [10:19pm] Bosun: Off site backup. [10:19pm] jokeefe: thanks [10:20pm] Bosun: Once ... [10:20pm] Sayyida: 10 min left gentelmen [10:21pm] Bosun: I will put out something to SAB about steps forward. [10:22pm] jokeefe: What should the pirate solution to the pandemic be? [10:23pm] Sayyida: test everyone, everyone wears masks, ubi until febuary 2021 at least, and OH YEA no cost for testing period [10:23pm] Sayyida: rent freezes and loan freezes [10:23pm] Sayyida: those are my suggestions. [10:23pm] Bosun: Break up proprietary test kits. Mandate standardization. Break IP restrictions when they interfere with public health. [10:24pm] Sayyida: ooo those are nice too! [10:25pm] jokeefe: right of repair for all medical equipment [10:25pm] Sayyida: YESA [10:25pm] jokeefe: https://pluralistic.net/2020/04/29/banjo-nazis/#butchery [10:25pm] Bosun: ... and be very careful of authoritarians using it as a means of controlling people. [10:25pm] jokeefe: no contract tracing apps [10:26pm] Sayyida: I saw they are implimenting them in other areas [10:26pm] Sayyida: ITS MIND NUMBING [10:26pm] jokeefe: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/half-of-americans-wont-trust-contact-tracing-apps-new-poll-finds/ [10:26pm] papegaai: Title: Half of Americans won’t trust contact-tracing apps, new poll finds | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) [10:26pm] Bosun: Everyone issued a mask has better return on investment. [10:27pm] DammitViktyr: Only half? [10:28pm] Sayyida: im suprised that so many even oppose it [10:28pm] Bosun: Also --- forcing people to work in unsafe conditions using the defense production mandate is criminal. [10:28pm] Sayyida: YES [10:28pm] jokeefe: The other half didn’t understand the question [10:29pm] Sayyida: jokeefe, yea more of how far could it go [10:29pm] Sayyida: we have min left [10:29pm] Sayyida: are we going to continue? [10:30pm] Bosun: Iowa and Texas will cut off aide to anyone who refuses to go back to work. The meat packing plants are killing workers. Life means nothing? [10:30pm] jokeefe: that is a start [10:31pm] Bosun: We should adjourn [10:31pm] jokeefe: The list is a start. Texas is awful [10:31pm] jokeefe: #DeathCult [10:32pm] Bosun: GA also. [10:32pm] jokeefe: and many more [10:32pm] jokeefe: I am fine adjourning. I will post notes [10:32pm] Sayyida: same [10:32pm] Bosun: Thank you so much. [10:32pm] Sayyida: see you all later!