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== Agenda ==

Please send me suggested agenda items as well as any URLs to articles on COVID-19 authoritarian power grabs. --bosun@wipp.coop

=== Reports ===

==== IT ====

==== Other ====

=== Decision ===

== Attending ==

=== Non-Voting ===

== Summary ==

==Minutes==

'''Record of the meeting'''

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	[10:31pm] Sayyida: more of a "bounus" in the point spectrum		[10:31pm] Sayyida: more of a "bounus" in the point spectrum
		+	[10:32pm] Sayyida: anyways we are at time
		+	[10:32pm] Bosun_: I will draft another statement and circulate it on the list. Thanks for the feedback. We are at time.
		+	[10:32pm] Sayyida: motion to adjoun
		+	[10:32pm] Joe: 2nd
		+	[10:33pm] Sayyida: good night
		+	[10:33pm] jokeefe: aye
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		+	[10:33pm] Joe: gn
		+	[10:33pm] Joe left the chat room.
		+	[10:33pm] plank: good night
		+	[10:33pm] Bosun_: We are ajourned.
		+	[10:33pm] Bosun_: good night

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		+	[10:02pm] Bosun_: Please identify
		+	[10:02pm] Sayyida: Megan Klein vice chair
		+	[10:02pm] Bosun_: Joseph Klein USPP Chair.
		+	[10:02pm] Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Treasurer, Massachusetts
		+	[10:03pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Secretary, Massachusetts
		+	[10:03pm] jokeefe: Meeting record: https://wiki.pirate-party.us/PNC_6/10/20
		+	[10:03pm] papegaai: Title: PNC 6/10/20 - United States Pirate Party (at wiki.pirate-party.us)
		+	[10:03pm] plank: Evan DeMers, Sacramento, CA
		+	[10:04pm] Bosun_: Let's go through the reports.
		+	[10:04pm] Bosun_: Evan is here to help represent CA.
		+	[10:05pm] jokeefe: I don’t have anything to report on the tech side. I’ll check in on Silas.
		+	[10:06pm] Bosun_: I added the accounts as requested by jokeefe and taking a bit more care of crew.
		+	[10:06pm] Bosun_: ... working on the monster update.
		+	[10:07pm] jokeefe: thank you
		+	[10:07pm] Joe left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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		+	[10:08pm] Bosun_: What do you think of the events the last few weeks?
		+	[10:08pm] plank: seems the protests are slowly losing steam
		+	[10:09pm] jokeefe: Seattle autonomous zone
		+	[10:09pm] Bosun_: They have gone on longer than any prior.
		+	[10:09pm] Joe: I am saddened by all the unanswered violence that has taken place.
		+	[10:11pm] Bosun_: Some cases of people taking advantage and looting. Some provocateurs, mostly on the right I think.
		+	[10:11pm] Sayyida: i have friends in the automous zone
		+	[10:12pm] Sayyida: this week has been emotional and i don't have many more left
		+	[10:12pm] Bosun_: We spotted Boogaloos in Chicago and Milwaukee.
		+	[10:13pm] Bosun_: The marches in Milwaukee are the first to make it into the suburbs.
		+	[10:13pm] plank left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
		+	[10:13pm] Sayyida: they are gassing people in seattle
		+	[10:13pm] plank joined the chat room.
		+	[10:14pm] Joe left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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		+	[10:14pm] Sayyida: this just has made me feel raw and empty as i watch friends and family alike protest and get met with violence
		+	[10:14pm] jokeefe: Doesn’t look like the protests are ending around here. If anything, they are spreading out to other areas.
		+	[10:15pm] Sayyida: same here
		+	[10:15pm] Bosun_: DOJ officially categorizes pepper and CS as chemical agents except when use to clear peaceful demonstrators for a Presidential PR stunt.
		+	[10:17pm] cparker[p] left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
		+	[10:17pm] Bosun_: What should our policy be regarding. protests?
		+	[10:18pm] Bosun_: If any.
		+	[10:18pm] plank left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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		+	[10:19pm] Joe: Gentle support. Urging marching for change but in a peaceful way. Make sure that justice is upheld no matter what.
		+	[10:19pm] jokeefe: https://pad.riseup.net/p/BLMProtestsStatement
		+	[10:19pm] papegaai: Title: Riseup Pad (at pad.riseup.net)
		+	[10:19pm] Sayyida: i fully support both peaceful and violent forms of protest
		+	[10:20pm] Sayyida: its not like the issue wasn't called out 3xs and named already or anything
		+	[10:20pm] Bosun_: I agree with calls for noviolence. I also agree that we, as a nation, need to ban excessive use of force by police.
		+	[10:20pm] Bosun_: No choke holds.
		+	[10:20pm] Joe: Boson_what is your take on #8cantwait
		+	[10:21pm] Joe: I really do agree with ending police unions
		+	[10:21pm] jokeefe: Not sure it goes far enough: https://8cantwait.org/
		+	[10:21pm] papegaai: Title: 8 Can't Wait (at 8cantwait.org)
		+	[10:21pm] Joe: thank you Jokeefe
		+	[10:21pm] Sayyida: i don't think the 8 goes far enough either
		+	[10:22pm] Joe: What would you see different? Please elaborate.
		+	[10:22pm] Bosun_: It seems a reasonable first step.
		+	[10:23pm] Sayyida: who are you asking Joe
		+	[10:23pm] plank left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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		+	[10:24pm] Bosun_: Camden NJ - look at their reform.
		+	[10:24pm] Bosun_: Reduced crime.
		+	[10:24pm] Joe: Everyone, but including you Sayyida
		+	[10:24pm] Joe: I agree with you I am just looking for us to articulate why this is such a good thing.
		+	[10:25pm] jokeefe: https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/01/what-happened-to-crime-in-camden/549542/
		+	[10:25pm] papegaai: Title: After Police Reform, Crime Falls In Camden, New Jersey - CityLab (at www.citylab.com)
		+	[10:25pm] Sayyida: honestly the police force needs to be suspended, every officer must go through background check, mental health screening, social meadia checking ect
		+	[10:26pm] Bosun_: The offending core are the police unions. They tend to have the berserkers in their ranks.
		+	[10:26pm] Joe: Thing is, I agree with Obama in that we should be continually focused on major changes over a long period of time. One step at a time.
		+	[10:26pm] Sayyida: eliminate the racists and nazis
		+	[10:26pm] Joe: Agreed Bosun_ they stop the firing of bad cops.
		+	[10:27pm] Sayyida: remove lethal weapons
		+	[10:27pm] Sayyida: police union has to go too
		+	[10:27pm] jokeefe: demilitarize police
		+	[10:27pm] Sayyida: cops need to actualy complete a degree to become one
		+	[10:28pm] Bosun_: De escalation training and more use of non lethal tactic.
		+	[10:28pm] Sayyida: 4 years or more
		+	[10:28pm] Sayyida: theres a lot that MUST be done before I would think of calling the police or even trusting them
		+	[10:29pm] Bosun_: Some have suggested an occupational licensing ssystem.
		+	[10:29pm] jokeefe: shift resources to (mental) health care, schools, other services
		+	[10:29pm] plank left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
		+	[10:29pm] Joe: In MA you have to have a bachelors in Criminal justice at least, though we always referred to it as the class to pass no matter what.
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		+	[10:29pm] Joe: More of a joke than anything else.
		+	[10:29pm] Bosun_: That is the defunding argument. - Not really defunding but shifting.
		+	[10:29pm] Sayyida: i know indianapolis you don't, its considered an aprenticishp
		+	[10:29pm] Sayyida: gah i can't type today
		+	[10:29pm] jokeefe: They used to provide a boost in funding if you had a bachelors in Criminal justice, but they ended that
		+	[10:30pm] Sayyida: You would walk into your local sherriffs office and "apply"
		+	[10:31pm] Sayyida: by that its paperwork and then you get stuck wtih the local in your area
		+	[10:31pm] Sayyida: yes there are degrees but they are not required
		+	[10:31pm] Sayyida: more of a "bounus" in the point spectrum

PNC 6/10/20 - Revision history

Humaniformrobot at 19:27, 20 March 2026

Jokeefe at 02:34, 11 June 2020

Jokeefe at 02:31, 11 June 2020

Jokeefe: Created page with "== Agenda == Please send me suggested agenda items as well as any URLs to articles on COVID-19 authoritarian power grabs. --bosun@wipp.coop === Reports === ==== IT ==== ==..."