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The August 17th, 2025 PNC Meeting was one of the weekly meetings of the [https://wiki.uspirates.org/w/index.php?title=Pirate_National_Committee_(PNC) Pirate National Committee (PNC)]. This meeting took place on IRC.
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==== IT ====

==== Outreach ====

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==== Officers ====

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==== Old Business ====

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==Summary==

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====Non-voting====

===Business===

==Meeting Minutes==

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		+	14:20:45 — 17:59:40 JohnTheYooper and Wanda-FL have joined<br>
		+	17:59:52 <Wanda-FL> ahoy<br>
		+	18:00:46 NomadOfNorad-FLPP has joined<br>
		+	18:01:20 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Ahoy.... (I am on my tablet)<br>
		+	18:01:30 <Wanda-FL> I thought you would'nt be able to make it<br>
		+	18:01:32 <Wanda-FL> ohh<br>
		+	18:02:04 <Wanda-FL> If you're here, would you mind being Florida's voting member today? I was a little busy and only came because I thought you wouldn't be able to
		+	18:02:05 Citizen has joined<br>
		+	18:02:07 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Yeah, forgot I could try my tablet....<br>
		+	18:02:24 <Citizen> ahoy<br>
		+	18:03:07 EliMass has joined, Wanda-FL has quit<br>
		+	18:03:56 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> So, I'M voting for Florida today. Whatcould possibly go wrong. :D<br>
		+	18:07:11 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> So, are we at the IDing step yet? Or are we waiting on more ppl to show up?<br>
		+	18:09:29 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Anyway, I'm David Hall, one of the Florida PP reps.<br>
		+	18:10:34 <Citizen> I'm Dustin, one of Arizona's PP reps. <br>
		+	18:10:57 <EliMass> Eli McGee, the Massachusetts rep<br>
		+	18:12:41 Jester has joined<br>
		+	18:12:54 <Jester> Ashley Melody, Interim rep for Indiana Pirates<br>
		+	18:13:14 <Jester> Sorry for the delay, my Internet connection has been having issues all day<br>
		+	18:13:36 Cyfun has joined<br>
		+	18:13:51 <Cyfun> Hello there!<br>
		+	18:16:38 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Do we have quorum? I don't see particularly the biggies here at the moment.<br>
		+	18:18:56 EliMass has left<br>
		+	18:18:59 <Jester> Yea, I'm kinda shocked that Mitch isn't here already, it's a little concerning<br>
		+	18:19:43 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> yeah<br>
		+	18:19:46 <Jester> Well we've got at least 4 voting members<br>
		+	18:20:34 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Do we have anything on the agenda carrying over from last week?<br>
		+	18:21:33 <Jester> The business regarding indiana is still tabled til next jitsi meeting<br>
		+	18:22:29 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> So, any new business?<br>
		+	18:24:12 <Citizen> Rowan brought up the effectiveness and availability of IRC and potential alternative on our last Jitsi meeting<br>
		+	18:24:16 <Jester> I do not know off of the top of my head<br>
		+	18:24:24 <Jester> Citizen is right here I believe<br>
		+	18:25:23 <Citizen> I had to join in incognito mode on browser to attend. NomadOfNorad-FLPP did you have any issues on the tablet?<br>
		+	18:26:16 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> I'm perfectly fine with irc myself. It's old enough and still supported by basic stuff to still be accessible by Android tablet via the Web.<br>
		+	18:26:49 <Jester> Excellent<br>
		+	18:27:07 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> No, no troubles, simply clickied the linkie in the Discord announcement and it took me to the web interface.<br>
		+	18:27:25 <Jester> Oh yea that's the beauty of it<br>
		+	18:27:44 <Citizen> I'll have to try a mobile device myself next time. I think old credentials were cached for me or something. It said no account found. <br>
		+	18:27:50 <Jester> I say as I'm going to be doing a big tech upgrade in about two weeks after having my laptop break on me<br>
		+	18:28:26 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> I have no items to bring up. Not much activity in FLPP<br>
		+	18:28:43 <Jester> I'm still not seeing a quorum yet, only four state reps last I checked<br>
		+	18:29:18 <Cyfun> as far as alteratives to IRC/Jitsi, i did manage to get an instant of Mumble hosted on my OpenWRT router lmao. dunno if that's up to your standards.<br>
		+	18:30:10 <Jester> My standards are for my personal hardware<br>
		+	18:30:24 <Jester> Remind me what mumble is?<br>
		+	18:30:38 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Oh well, tere's no great urgency on this IRC-potential-replacement matter.<br>
		+	18:31:15 <Jester> Yea not really<br>
		+	18:31:18 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> iirc, mumble is another voice-chat tech<br>
		+	18:31:23 <Jester> ah<br>
		+	18:31:36 <Jester> but you can run your own instance<br>
		+	18:31:38 <Cyfun> Mumble is an open-source secure voice/text chat server, popular among gamers<br>
		+	18:31:46 <Citizen> https://www.mumble.info/<br>
		+	18:31:48 <papegaai> Title: Mumble (at www.mumble.info)<br>
		+	18:31:58 <Jester> it may be something to look into, at least for private inter-party things<br>
		+	18:32:21 <Jester> Especially since discord is currently getting caught up in a spyware dragnet to my knowledge<br>
		+	18:32:42 <JohnTheYooper> nothing that discord hasn't been involved in for quite some time tbh<br>
		+	18:32:47 <Cyfun> yuuuup, anything's better than Discord. i just wish there were more available options, especially opensource<br>
		+	18:33:32 <JohnTheYooper> matrix is the largest immediate alternative people tend to think of, followed by revolt for a discord-like alt, signal on the more privacy end + simplex or session<br>
		+	18:34:08 <Jester> But having a discord makes it easier to find us, and gives us a window through which we can perform Maskirovka<br>
		+	18:34:17 <Cyfun> i've had Revolt installed for years, never met any communities who utilized it<br>
		+	18:34:24 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> There's an open-source Discord clone called Spacebar, but I don't get the impression they've gained much traction.<br>
		+	18:34:57 <JohnTheYooper> the best bet, which is a pita, is a bridge between the two platforms be it discord-irc or discord-matrix (but discord-matrix-irc is not a good recipe). Spacebar is behind but a nice idea<br>
		+	18:35:32 <Jester> I think one problem we are having is that we are supposedly the "party of the internet" that stubbornly refuses to adopt modern internet services. partially out of privacy concerns, but we also need to meet the people where they are at<br>
		+	18:35:53 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Irony of ironies...<br>
		+	18:36:17 <Jester> It is isn't it?<br>
		+	18:36:18 <JohnTheYooper> modern and private tends to still have more modern tools while my impression so far has been a tech stack that has not substantially advanced since 2012<br>
		+	18:36:22 <Cyfun> what is everyone's opinion on Telegram? is it secure enough?<br>
		+	18:37:42 <Cyfun> i agree completely Jester. how can we claim to be more tech savvy than tech billionaires when we can't agree on a digital platform? cuz resorting to using the popular platforms is kinda part of the problem<br>
		+	18:38:29 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Telegram is a mite clunky... also, I keep findin I've been ninja-invited to random cryptocurrency channels I didn't ask for and have to quit back out of.<br>
		+	18:39:25 <Citizen> I don't like Telegram because it's not fully open source. I prefer signal. <br>
		+	18:39:38 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> teleggram did add some Discord-esque multi-channel features, tho.<br>
		+	18:40:00 <Cyfun> ya Telegram isn't as good as protectig users' privacy as one would hope. plus being decentralized makes it a bitch to get support. which is why i've been leaning towards the self-hosted route.<br>
		+	18:40:19 <Cyfun> god i miss ICQ. and Trillian.<br>
		+	18:40:24 <JohnTheYooper> telegram has not been the same since its founder was arrested iirc<br>
		+	18:41:27 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> The Powers That Be playinghardball to get what they want.<br>
		+	18:42:20 <Cyfun> i wonder how Pavel Durov is doing lately. just realized he's been in jail for an entire year already<br>
		+	18:42:29 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> ouchies<br>
		+	18:43:47 <Jester> We also need to get better at general communications and taking advantage of outreach via other social media platforms<br>
		+	18:44:56 <Cyfun> we almost need an IT ticketing system for tracking issues and communications. you know... one that doesn't suck tho<br>
		+	18:45:25 MangoMan has quit<br>
		+	18:46:41 <Cyfun> who is in charge of outreach currently? i'd like to make a concerted effort around Idaho and Wyoming<br>
		+	18:48:53 <Citizen> @Cyfun An open source jira service like https://github.com/opf/openproject would be cool for tracking initiatives, projects, etc<br>
		+	18:48:54 <papegaai> Title: GitHub - opf/openproject: OpenProject is the leading open source project management software. (at github.com)<br>
		+	18:49:27 <Citizen> Lol twice now @papegaai<br>
		+	18:50:36 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> How close is that one to being non-sucky, tho?<br>
		+	18:51:49 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Or to put it another way, does to check all the boxes for what we need or want?<br>
		+	18:53:22 <Cyfun> if our intent is to make an open-source government, largely for the sake of transparency and public involvement... then the right tool for the job might already exist somewhere<br>
		+	18:53:33 <Citizen> I haven't tried it but I think it's worth a test to evaluate. It's active on Github development. <br>
		+	18:54:14 <Cyfun> what software do politicans currently use for tracking interactions with constitents/lobbyists/etc?<br>
		+	18:54:54 <Cyfun> OpenProject might work well if we can tweak the UI so that the average luddite can still navigate it<br>
		+	18:55:38 <Citizen> I'd bet Salesforce just because they are the leader in CRM<br>
		+	18:57:08 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> I'd wager whatever official government reps are using would have military-grade-security on it.<br>
		+	18:58:02 <Jester> likley yea<br>
		+	18:58:41 <JohnTheYooper> it may be less than you'd think to be honest<br>
		+	19:01:01 <Cyfun> do we know anyone we could ask? liek who are the USPP's allies already in elected office?<br>
		+	19:03:02 <Jester> I think we could make inroads with Bernie and AOC if we haven't already on the national level. But I think we need to focus more on our local politicians. The GOP has so much power right now since they decided that controlling state level governments in the long term was most important, we must take the same strategy<br>
		+	19:04:34 <Cyfun> @Jester i'm of the same thought. we should rub shoulders with some of the less popular politicians that are hungry for attention, especially at state levels<br>
		+	19:05:08 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Well, we've already started onto that front at least.<br>
		+	19:06:22 <Jester> Yea I know that some of the state parties have been doing good work on that
		+	19:11:00 <Cyfun> i'm actually headed down to Denver soon. do we have any friends in Colorado?
		+	19:12:30 <Citizen> I'm signing off, see folks next week.
		+	19:12:54 <Cyfun> ciao
		+	19:12:57 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Yeah, been an hour and change.
		+	19:13:05 Citizen has quit
		+	19:13:56 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Headed Down to Denver would be a good name for a music group.
		+	19:14:20 <Jester> Well since it has been an hour, and we have no quorum, there is no reason for the rest of y'all to be here. Feel free to go if you like
		+	19:15:04 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> To Denver? :D<br>
		+	19:15:23 <Cyfun> Southbound and Down! Two wheels a-rollin'!<br>
		+	19:16:28 <Jester> "Take him to Detroid!"<br>
		+	19:16:37 <Jester> Detroit*<br>
		+	19:16:55 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> Take him to Detroid woul be<br>
		+	19:17:05 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> a good name for a scifi movie<br>
		+	19:18:40 <NomadOfNorad-FLPP> assuming Detroid was the name of a droid, anyway. Gotta love typos that sound neat-o-keen.<br>
		+	19:23:35 — 21:09:21 JohnTheYooper, Jester, NomadOfNorad-FLPP and Cyfun have quit

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